I am working on a very complex book and cursing the lack of master pages. This cannot be that hard to create. Can it!
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I am working on a very complex book and cursing the lack of master pages. This cannot be that hard to create. Can it!
My grandmother lived to be 101.Quote:
Originally Posted by gwpriester
I hope you live longer, but you might still be waiting for Master Pages and CMYK support..
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Master pages would be of great benefit to the web side of things and then be subsequently useful for the print side of things.
My feeling--like y'all don't already know it--is that Xara applications are not layout applications. (I like the screen shot with a hint of APub's icon in it. And perhaps the message it is sending.) And even if Xara applications ever obtain master pages, it will never be as efficient as using a dedicated layout application for even laying out novels.
But then again, Gary didn't ask my opinion...
Mike
As an aside, APub isn't great at handling text over hundreds of pages, either. It does have MPs. However, Serif's use of MPs is at best weird & weak (especially in comparison to its dead product, PagePlus). The concept of how MPs work (and should work) is one of its weakest "new" concepts in work-flows. Serif has stated that how MPs (and their stupid layer system) will be revisited. They now handle linked images better & anchoring of images so I have no doubt they will revamp MPs. It's a matter of when and how it is handled and whether MPs, when changed, work in a more standard manner. But hey, it'll be cheap...
Paul and Mike - Deju Vu all over again. I have used Xara for so long, I know how to get done what I want to do. And at the end of the day, nobody knows if the book was created in Quark, InDesign or Xara. Xara is just a tool and it works for me most of the time. But doing a book that has a lot of repetition, it would be so much more convenient to apply a master page to the current page or page spread. But I am flogging a dead equine here.
Most likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by gwpriester
How would the master page work?
Essentially you make a template for the page layout and can apply that to multiple pages, so they are all consistent.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanFelix
Perhaps a bit like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZAXM6j7cCQ
And when you make a change to a master page all pages based on that master page update accordingly.
Gary, just a thought... Would repeat on all pages not work?
That is what I have had to do and then delete whatever it is on the pages I don't want something to appear. But that is a chore. Delete. Then each time specify just this page.Quote:
Gary, just a thought... Would repeat on all pages not work?
The idea of master pages similar but the main objects only appear on certain pages. The technology is there.
Focus of Xara has been extensively on Fonts and adjustment feature of type so they really need to get the master page idea done or else why push for desktop features in the type department?
We had it 30 years ago. I think something got lost in translation when ported from RISCOS to Windows :-
http://www.apdl.org.uk/riscworld/vol...st20/index.htm
Master pages
Computer Concepts describe Impression as a Document Processor. Each document consists of one or more Chapters. Each chapter consists of one or more pages, and each page of one or more frames. As suggested earlier, you can place frames exactly where you need them, and move them around at will. But the effects which you create will only be valid for the current page.
To allow for conformity from page to page. Impression uses the concept of Master Pages. At the beginning of each new chapter (the start of a single page memo still counts technically as a new chapter), you can select an appropriate master page. The simplest has a single A4 sized frame, another has a two-column format, while yet others allow four columns on an A4 page held horizontally (allowing it to be folded over to make an A5 pamphlet (similar to the format used by RISC User). And if none of these are suitable, you can design your own. Master pages can also be used to supply a consistent logo or .banner to a sequence of pages, and to supply page numbers and other headers and footers - any of which may be over-ridden on specific pages.
Great to see that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grafix Smelter
I guess Impression was the child of Wordwise.
I don't think Xara Studio came from that branch of the family - it was never a word processor, it was a graphic design program with rudimentary text handling.
But Master Pages should have been done years ago, together with CMYK handling.
"Dongles", yes you just needed to move your Acorn further & further back from the wall ;)
Impression was the child of InterWord which came out of Wordwise if I remember correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by pauland
Xara came from ArtWorks, but it must have been the same development team. They may have changed names and platform, but the still work at the same mansion house with a swimming pool ;-)
What you never made your own Dongle dangle parallel port ribbon?Quote:
Originally Posted by Egg Bramhill
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No, just moved my computer further & further away from the wall ;)
The version of Impression Publisher I had did not need dongle.
Personally prefer Ovation Pro to Impression and it works on both RISC OS and Windows.