Does DP365 have tool similar to Photoshop's free transform?

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21 July 2016, 10:41 PM
cadudesun

Does DP365 have tool similar to Photoshop's free transform?

On Photoshop's free transform:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrN4fhpLCS4

Thanks,
Cadu_
22 July 2016, 12:22 AM
gwpriester

Re: Does DP365 have tool similar to Photoshop's free transform?

Probably better because it does not require all the menu selections. http://xaraxone.xara.hosting/pro365/photo-editing.html

Better still, download the free 30 day trial version and give it a spin.

Double click on a photo image to enable the features. Mouse over any of the control points to see what each one does. Then try it out.
22 July 2016, 01:14 AM
cadudesun

Re: Does DP365 have tool similar to Photoshop's free transform?

Thanks for reply!
"Double click on a photo image" provides some control, but I couldn't find a way to adjust a bit the perspective, as in Photoshop's free transform.
Also, I tried DP's perspective correction, but the result isn't good.
Is it possible to perform in DP the adjusts showed in the follwoing screen-recording?
https://goo.gl/jQp8tW
22 July 2016, 07:56 AM
Boy

Re: Does DP365 have tool similar to Photoshop's free transform?

Unfortunately not. It has been requested many times to be able to manually change the perspective of bitmaps and have this capability included in the Mould tool.
22 July 2016, 12:08 PM
cadudesun

Re: Does DP365 have tool similar to Photoshop's free transform?

Overall, DP365 is fitting most of my bitmap needs, but the lack of manually change the perspective will keep me using an external editor.
I'm trying to remove Photoshop from my bitmap workflow completely. I was almost there with DP365!
Does anyone know a bitmap editor alternative to work with DP365, if possible simpler than Photoshop, that would allow controls on perspective lacking in DP?
Thanks for info!
Cadu_
22 July 2016, 12:39 PM
gwpriester

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Re: Does DP365 have tool similar to Photoshop's free transform?

Probably not quite what you are looking for. This is a perspective envelope.
22 July 2016, 02:31 PM
digitalphaser

Re: Does DP365 have tool similar to Photoshop's free transform?

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadudesun

Overall, DP365 is fitting most of my bitmap needs, but the lack of manually change the perspective will keep me using an external editor.
I'm trying to remove Photoshop from my bitmap workflow completely. I was almost there with DP365!
Does anyone know a bitmap editor alternative to work with DP365, if possible simpler than Photoshop, that would allow controls on perspective lacking in DP?
Thanks for info!
Cadu_

If you're familiar with Photoshop, I do not see any reason to refuse it.
Do you not like the Adobe's subscription system?
On my laptop installed Photoshop Elements 13 + ElementsXXL. This plug-in makes available many functions of Photoshop's PRO versions. The plugin is constantly updated. All together cost me about 100EUR.

Pretty powerful editor with similar features is Corel PaintShop Pro (62EUR). If you know Photoshop, you can quickly learn and PSP.

By the way the lack of warp tool for bitmap in Xara really severely limits bitmap manipulations. It was one of my wishes for XDP v12.
22 July 2016, 02:58 PM
Egg Bramhill

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Re: Does DP365 have tool similar to Photoshop's free transform?

The perspective envelope is good provided you've got a decent sized image. This ones from a screen-grab so not great.

Attachment 113580

Or using a bit of copy/pasting.

Attachment 113581
22 July 2016, 03:07 PM
browj2

Re: Does DP365 have tool similar to Photoshop's free transform?

Hi,

Xara has included a standalone program called ShiftN with which you can make finer adjustments to perspective. Manual adjustments are made using sliders, not by dragging handles on the images. The program is under:

C:\Program Files\Xara\Xara Designer Pro X\12\ShiftN

or wherever your Xara happens to be installed. Also came with XPX11, probably 10 and 9

As an alternative, I use Corel PaintShop Pro X8 which has perspective correction tools, including dragging the corners and sliders/input boxes for fine-tuning. In fact, I have PaintShop as my bitmap editor with Xara DPX.
(I see Digital Phaser beat me to it about PaintShop)
22 July 2016, 06:01 PM
cadudesun

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Re: Does DP365 have tool similar to Photoshop's free transform?

Thanks all for the comments and tips.
I'd really like to cut Photoshop from my budget.
I tried the Mold Tool and I found the results quite acceptable.
Here there is a screen-recording with the experiment: https://goo.gl/ULB8S0
Besides the perspective issue, I found the Mold Tool made the bitmap considerable sharper than the original:
IAttachment 113583
The Mold Tool should work for most of my needs.

I would appreciate a further help:
As you can see in the screen-recording, after applying the Mold Tool the clip/crop seems stuck/locked. How to clip/crop the image after Mold Tool adjustments?

Thanks,
Cadu_
22 July 2016, 06:10 PM
gwpriester

Re: Does DP365 have tool similar to Photoshop's free transform?

browj2 - ShiftN is the Perspective Correction Tool and is at the end of the Photo Tool fly out menu. It has been there for at least three or four versions.

That said, I just checked in the program files and by golly there is a stand alone ShiftN. Shut my mouth and never mind.
22 July 2016, 07:52 PM
digitalphaser

Re: Does DP365 have tool similar to Photoshop's free transform?

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadudesun

Thanks all for the comments and tips.
I'd really like to cut Photoshop from my budget.
I tried the Mold Tool and I found the results quite acceptable.
Here there is a screen-recording with the experiment: https://goo.gl/ULB8S0
Besides the perspective issue, I found the Mold Tool made the bitmap considerable sharper than the original:
IAttachment 113583
The Mold Tool should work for most of my needs.

I would appreciate a further help:
As you can see in the screen-recording, after applying the Mold Tool the clip/crop seems stuck/locked. How to clip/crop the image after Mold Tool adjustments?

Thanks,
Cadu_

1. Select the molded image.
2. Arrange-->Create Bitmap Copy(Shift+Strl+C)
3. Hold the Shift key to place it in place.
23 July 2016, 12:55 PM
cadudesun

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Re: Does DP365 have tool similar to Photoshop's free transform?

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitalphaser

1. Select the molded image.
2. Arrange-->Create Bitmap Copy(Shift+Strl+C)
3. Hold the Shift key to place it in place.

It worked. Thanks!

By the way, I made additional tests with Xara's automatic perspective correction (Photo Tool), which engine is ShiftN as mentioned in this thread.
The former image (mountain) I've attached had many issues with vertical lines, what I think is the cause of the bad output I experienced at begging.
But considering the automatic perspective correction applied to images with clear vertical lines (e.g. buildings), the output is quite good. I've attached the sample image provided by ShiftN.
DP has inbuilt ShiftN v.3.5, but there is a ShiftN standalone, which is in v.4: http://www.shiftn.de/
Attachment 113592
23 July 2016, 02:09 PM
Boy

Re: Does DP365 have tool similar to Photoshop's free transform?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boy

Unfortunately not. It has been requested many times to be able to manually change the perspective of bitmaps and have this capability included in the Mould tool.

Sorry to have misled you, cadudesun, because the perspective molds work quite well. I was confused with the curved envelopes that distort photographs in unintended ways.
23 July 2016, 10:26 PM
RichH

Re: Does DP365 have tool similar to Photoshop's free transform?

I saw that you got things to work following the suggestion to convert the Mould-ed image into a bitmap. Another way to do it is to create a rectangle sized and positioned to be that of the desired crop, locate it under (in the stacking order) the mould-ed image, select it and the image and press Q for Clipview.
24 July 2016, 12:10 AM
cadudesun

Re: Does DP365 have tool similar to Photoshop's free transform?

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichH

create a rectangle sized and positioned to be that of the desired crop, locate it under (in the stacking order) the mould-ed image, select it and the image and press Q for Clipview.

Thanks. Handy!