3d tables

I'm experimenting with the new V 16 table functions and can't get 3d tables to work. Is there a way to manipulate tables with the 3d tool while keeping the correct positioning of graphics within the cells?

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Originally Posted by yjs

I'm experimenting with the new V 16 table functions and can't get 3d tables to work. Is there a way to manipulate tables with the 3d tool while keeping the correct positioning of graphics within the cells?

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Not directly if the table contained anchored groups (embedded graphics).

I believe the best you can do is create a bitmap copy after selecting the table and all of its associated embedded groups and 3D those. You need to use the original table as the master, make changes to it and create another bitmap copy.

Acorn

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Originally Posted by Acorn

Not directly if the table contained anchored groups (embedded graphics).

I believe the best you can do is create a bitmap copy after selecting the table and all of its associated embedded groups and 3D those. You need to use the original table as the master, make changes to it and create another bitmap copy.

Acorn

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Thanks Acorn, I figured I might need to do something like this. However, when I select a table and try to create a bitmap copy, the embedded graphics are not included.

Wouldn't a screen grab be of help?

Thanks, yes a screen grab should work and I'll do that if there's no other way. But I was hoping there would be something simpler/native to Xara e.g. grouping elements, convert into a shape...

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Originally Posted by yjs

Thanks Acorn, I figured I might need to do something like this. However, when I select a table and try to create a bitmap copy, the embedded graphics are not included.

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yjs, that is why I emphasised the need to select the table and all the embedded graphics. I do this by holding the Shift key down and clicking the first embedded graphic and then the table in the Page & Layout gallery.

Acorn

Thanks Acorn, that sounds exactly what I need to do.. I'm probably being dense but I just can't replicate that...

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Originally Posted by yjs

Thanks Acorn, that sounds exactly what I need to do.. I'm probably being dense but I just can't replicate that...

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yjs, never dense, just a new trick to learn:

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I start with inserting my Table.
Next I have the Page & Layer gallery open with Layers and Locate active.
I click on the table and the Table is blue highlighted.
I hold down the Shift key and click the top-most Embedded Group to blue highlight all the assets for the Table (as shown above).
Then, I right-click in the selected table area or the blue selections and pick the Create Bitmap Copy.
When on the page I then extrude to my needs.

Acorn

I understand your problem could you give me some work scearnshot.

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Originally Posted by sapon

I understand your problem could you give me some work scearnshot.

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sapon, welcome to TalkGraphics and a thank you for offering to help a fellow TG immediately.

Acorn

Yes, thanks very much to you both. Acorn, I can get your solution to work- Thanks!

I just saw that I can also just select the table and save as a jpeg.

Both are enough for my needs now, though if there is any way of keeping the original table editable and with an extrude that would be great.
Thanks again
Yaffa

That's easy. Save a copy of the file under another name. For example: "fileneame for editing.xar". I usually add "safe" or "keep" to the filename. In some projects, i store the files for future editing in a clearly named subfolder.

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Originally Posted by amoore

That's easy. Save a copy of the file under another name. For example: "fileneame for editing.xar". I usually add "safe" or "keep" to the filename. In some projects, i store the files for future editing in a clearly named subfolder.

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Sorry I wasn't clear. What you mention is what I'm currently doing and its fine for now. But if anyone knows a way to make edits directly on the 3d table, that would be wonderful.

Yaffa