Color issues AGAIN...

Hi folks,..just jumped into X1 as I LOVE Xara!! That being siad, I was HORRIFIED to see once again the innaccuracies of the color picker!! What is going on here???

I have a very nice and completely accurate color finder tool that selects a color on your screen and reveals the true RGB, HEX, CMYK values. I have used it for years and it is rock solid. Just yesterday I had to make a decent match for a job I was working on and I selected the colors, wrote down the values and then entered them into Xara X1 's color menu. What a disaster! Totally different and really not even close. We're talking the difference between Navy blue and sky blue. Xara (the original) was bad enough, but this is waaaay out of whack!! I'm going to test CMYK next,..but I'm assuming it will only be just as bad as RGB. Is there anyway to re-calibrate Xara?

Hi folks,..just jumped into X1 as I LOVE Xara!! That being siad, I was HORRIFIED to see once again the innaccuracies of the color picker!! What is going on here???

I have a very nice and completely accurate color finder tool that selects a color on your screen and reveals the true RGB, HEX, CMYK values. I have used it for years and it is rock solid. Just yesterday I had to make a decent match for a job I was working on and I selected the colors, wrote down the values and then entered them into Xara X1 's color menu. What a disaster! Totally different and really not even close. We're talking the difference between Navy blue and sky blue. Xara (the original) was bad enough, but this is waaaay out of whack!! I'm going to test CMYK next,..but I'm assuming it will only be just as bad as RGB. Is there anyway to re-calibrate Xara?

Probably a stupid question, but is RGB being measured in % or 0-255?

TPD
Welcome
Not sure why your getting this problem. Maybe this will help. Create a square then reduce your Xara window size.
Now with the square selected, open the colour editor, choose the eyedroper, go outside the Xara window, and select the target colour from the target window.

This way you don't need to enter any numerical values into Xara nor check wether their % or 0-255 values.

They should match. (If not check you haven't got 'Show Printer Colours' selected).

Meanwhile how about posting an example of your inaccuracies?

Egg

OK,..now it's just ticking me off!!! I create a box and I open the color tool. I select RGB model. Now when I start to fill in the values,..I notice the first value returning itself to 100% before I can even finish typing in the last value!!

You can see in this attachment how the value returns to 100% before I can even finsh tyoing in the values.

Here is the original source using my color picker tool that has never failed me before. It doesn't matter if it's a flat square or an image as shown below, Xara will not accept the values and/or has a completely different color when it does.

Hi Todd,

It sounds like your color units are set to percent. Open the Utilities > Options and select Units.

RGB values from your example.

I would suggest restarting Xara, if still goofy, then try reinstalling xara. the color editor works fine for me.

Xara is the first to admit they do not go hog wild over the gamut. White, black and the primary colors are on the money tho. The further you go from there, and xara drifts from being right on. Last I looked, flesh tones where not considered a primary color. http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

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I didn't have any problem with the color editor either. But I did notice from your example that your original fill color was a brown, which would likely have an R value of 100. So it could just be bouncing back to show the original fill values.
I don't know. "Try again" is my only advice. - AF

Another point.

If you are sampling colors from a bitmap image you can get a wide range of colors. The attached image includes a blow up one of the stars. Each color of blue is slightly different.

Gary

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Soquili:
Hi Todd,

It sounds like your color units are set to percent. Open the Utilities > Options and select Units. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bill hit right on the head you need to set your values to units. i used your numbers and had a perfect match also.

Guys,..I'm ashamed and embarrassed. Thanks Mike for pointing out the obvious. I had the units set to percent. All is well with the world and Xara now. Again,...my apologies for sucj a bone head question.

I hate when I can't figure something out on my own. I feel like it sets me back 10 giant steps!

Todd

Todd,

I don't think it is such a bone head question/issue!

I tripped up on this quite often when I first started using XARA. I always have to advise new users in my company of this.

That is why I WISH there was an OPTION (enabled as the default state), when switching from CMYK to RGB to AUTOMATICALLY change the color units to 0-255 and vice-versa when switching back from RGB to CMYK.

If the option were unchecked, then things would work the way they are now.

Todd its the obvious that gets us every time http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Todd, I've been there and done that. The only 'bone head' question is the one that isn't asked.

I tried to enter CMYK values picked from Photoshop into Xara X, and ended up with very different looking colors (values). I guess Xara X doesn't compensate for print colors like Photoshop does, but perhaps that's not the issue here...

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I tried to enter CMYK values picked from Photoshop into Xara X, and ended up with very different looking colors (values). I guess Xara X doesn't compensate for print colors like Photoshop does, but perhaps that's not the issue here... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Go to Windows > Show Printer Colors > Simulate Print Colors.

Gary