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A Challenge?
I've seen several excellent images regarding beer mugs, wine/champagne glasses, cans etc., but have noticed some difficulty in coming up with realistic beer foam.
I know *I* can't do it, but this forum has numerous amazing artists on it, and I wondered if a challenge might be thrown down to see who can come up with some great foam! I did see an image by RUSS-USSR that had some amazing foam, both on top of a glass and inside a bottle. I'd love to see "the pros" go for it, as I've had great difficulty in trying to recreate realistic foam.
Or perhaps even more difficult, how about some condensation on a can of pop or beer?
If these topics have already been hammered out, I apologize in advance.
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I've seen several excellent images regarding beer mugs, wine/champagne glasses, cans etc., but have noticed some difficulty in coming up with realistic beer foam.
I know *I* can't do it, but this forum has numerous amazing artists on it, and I wondered if a challenge might be thrown down to see who can come up with some great foam! I did see an image by RUSS-USSR that had some amazing foam, both on top of a glass and inside a bottle. I'd love to see "the pros" go for it, as I've had great difficulty in trying to recreate realistic foam.
Or perhaps even more difficult, how about some condensation on a can of pop or beer?
If these topics have already been hammered out, I apologize in advance.
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but if I can find it, I'll upload my attempt.
Gary
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Styrofoam! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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a favorite topic of mine! I sit here enjoying this fine forum whilst enjoying a fine "Dab" (The pride of Germany's hard-working Dortmunders!). Heck, its time to open another! Got to love that German Purity Law of 1516 which results in clean beer free of the 200+ additives used by American brewers. Thumbs up to the Reinheitsgebot!
Ever since I drew the pool-office I've wanted to revise the pic so the pool was filled with beer - for the ultimate office! I tried but failed to do it convincingly. Perhaps from this thread I'll get some good pointers and I can refill the pool. I'd like that.
Regards, Ross
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It's either foam or Marge Simpsons hair when she's 104 years old
All foam is is zillions of tiny bubbles from the carbonation. So this was done with allot of cloning of a group of 4 or 5 various bubble shapes with the line color reduced to a light gray tone, (I also flipped them in different directions. I then grouped them all and created a clone of all the clones, grouped, then did an "add shapes". I then took that and added fractal plazma to it. Then I did another copy of that and did a 4 color version using yellow and yellow-orange. Then a copy of the cloned bubbles again and did "join shapes" which gave it more character and added eliptical fill to it and then stacked them all on top of each other and added some feathering to it (4 points) and that's it!!
Beer was simple, rectangle with fractal plazma and fractal plazma transparency, squewed slightly and some highlights. It was a quicky but at least I tried...........I'm tired now, going to bed..............ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ross Macintosh:
Ever since I drew the http://talkgraphics.infopop.net/1/Op...9&m=2971970301 I've wanted to revise the pic so the pool was filled with beer - for the ultimate office! I tried but failed to do it convincingly. Perhaps from this thread I'll get some good pointers and I can refill the pool. I'd like that.
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Very nice ;-). I wonder how is it possible that I've missed this one [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]
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Roman
I think Ross did his photo of Mark's office before you joined the conference.
That image is still one of Ross's greatest hits.
Richard - Pretty good bubbles, but they are a little dull. Bubbles have highlights and reflections and transparency. You could create one Master Bubble (sounds like a new comic book character), copy it, then select the whole lot of bubbles and Apply Attributes.
Gary
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I don't have a site from which I can upload, but I can detail how I just created some pretty cool looking foam.
Now granted, this "foam" sits on top of a pint glass, and looks as though the glass is about a couple of feet away from the viewer.
Perhaps some of you can try this out to see what type of results you get. Here is what I did:
1. I used the freehand tool to draw a foam-head shape that covers just over the top of the pint glass and about an inch down into the glass.
2. I used a flat fill, and borrowed RUSS-USSR's foam fill color of RGB (190,191,175).
3. I then applied an elliptical transparency and fiddled with it until I got a nice looking highlight.
4. I then cloned the shape and applied a gravel(1) fill from Xara's Ground fill gallery for some texture.
5. Lastly, I applied a flat, mix transparency to the gravel fill, set at 93%.
It looks pretty convincing for an image that's not too close. As for applying foam to an image that's upclose...I got nada!
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You don't need a "site" to upload from. You can include attachments in your postings. You do so by checking the 'option' found below the 'instant graemlins' when you are composing your message.
Go to the test forum and try it out. With the option checked, when you click the "Post Now" button you'll find a page will load that allows you to browse your drives for an image to upload. That's how almost every image in these forums is uploaded.
It is possible to use the "Image" button in the "Instant UBBCode" section - that does require the image to be on a webserver somewhere. Very few participants use that approach.
Regards, Ross
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Thanks for the tip, Ross.
I went to the test forum and attached the image. It shows up in my post as an attachment (drockale.xar) 153kb...but no image.
When you click on the attachment it loads, but you just get the image icon and no image.
I dunno...
I'm off to the College World Series for the day, so everyone have a nice weekend.
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You're right - .xar's don't display. You should export from Xara a jpg or gif and upload that. It will display in your posting. Please try to keep the maximum size of your jpeg's/gif's practical. 550 to 600 pix wide seems to work well.
Regards, Ross
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Well, duh...I suppose a gif would work "slightly" better! LOL.
Here we go...
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Disregarding all the "other" errors in the image...
The foam looks awfully flat...and not in the stale beer kinda way. It could use a little depth for sure.
'til Monday...
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but I agreed with Gary... the foam needed some more depth. I wasn't looking to make the foam itself "shiny", I've seen some pretty dull foam in my day, but the rest of the compostition needed to be done right and the bubbles were done completely over incorporating really small ones with the larger ones, scattered all over the place.
I also realize that the foam is really wild looking but it was meant to be that way.
I also leaned quite a bit from this. Like the use of bitmap copies to create the reflections of the object instead of trying to clone the original and flipping it and adding linear too it, that always ended up a mess. The Bitmap copy, flipped, (with alpha applied) with linear or eliptical (which I used here) added the effect that I wanted and kept the file size way down!!!
This was fun but now I have to really get serious and finish this angel of mine!!!!
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I don't drink beer, but thought I'd attempt to simulate foam.
Soquili
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I wanted to just update my image as it needed some work but couldn't swap the images as it has been over 60 minutes since I last checked in... so here's the new version....have another!!! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
[This message was edited by Crow Haven on June 14, 2002 at 19:18.]
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Maya's image looks like fresh draft beer that was just poored. You can even see where it is still settling in the mug. NICE!!!! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
All the images are really good, enjoyed this one more than I thought I would [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] I still aint doing no stinkin' pizza challenge though [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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anyone gets hungry....here's some pizza too! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
http://talkgraphics.infopop.net/1/Op...&ul=3121905805
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Maya, Excellent.
Oddly enough, that is exactly what I had for supper last night.
Mike
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The beer just looked kinda lonely there so I thought I'd add in another of the "basic food groups" [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] !
This was a fun challenge to try!!!
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Maya [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]
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You made me thirsty [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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I'm not surprised a thread like this would have appeal!!! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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Maya [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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Maya, you've covered two of the major food groups for most of the college crowd [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]
Excellent drawings.
Soquili
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I enjoyed your drawing and all the others' too!!! Actually, I only occasionally have these "staples". I guess there were times when beer was much safer to drink than water and you'd stand a better chance of staying well consuming it...gees! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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Maya
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but the beers gone a little flat in the year since I drew it
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The foams gone a little flat as I drew it about a year ago
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[crowquote] I guess there were times when beer was much safer to drink than water and you'd stand a better chance of staying well consuming it [/crowquote]
Beer is very good for you. Drinking it in moderation is the key. Better for you than carbonated soft drinks like Pepsi etc. Significantly better for you than drinking diet soft drinks. (they will kill you!)
I want you all to be healthy and happy - drink a pure beer!
Regards, Ross
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Ross, I've heard and read some negetive things about the health effects of diet drinks and too much soda pop/colas. The time for beer never ended!!! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] I've also had beer made from raspberries-----really delicious!!! I like hard cider as well...you can tell country life has gotten to me!!! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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Maya [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]
Nice beer glass too, Derek!!!
[This message was edited by Crow Haven on June 15, 2002 at 17:04.]
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... beer/foam in this thread, making me thirsty!
Splendid pizza too Maya. The best pizza I ever had was in the US and it was only tomato and cheese.
Hmm I'm not really a cider drinker, we get something called Scrumpy here which is very strong cider. My other half is very partial to what is called black velvet, which is a mixture of Guiness and cider. Pretty potent stuff by all accounts.
Raspberry beer ... sounds interesting. What colour does it come out pink or red?
Regards
Su
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Thanks!!! Great to hear from you again!!! The drink mixture your other half likes, "Black Velvet", sounds interesting! The raspberry beer looks like red wine almost---deep red---and very yummy, there isn't a lot of alcohol taste so one has to be careful not to drink too much of it as it tastes soooo good. There is only one bistro in town which sells it only by the glass at $5 a drink, it is from Belgium...but it is a great treat! The Blue Heron Bistro also makes wonderful raspberry tortes for dessert that go with it perfectly (the lemon ones are yummy too)....gees, this is making me hungry!!! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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Maya
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... Maya. Hmm sounds yummy. Yep making me feel hungry too, although at around 5:40 in the morning it's a little early for sweets. Have to make do with toast.
Thanks for the info, we drink another Belgium beer called Hogaarden (I think I've spelt that right). It is a white beer which looks cloudy, and is very nice. Had a quick look around the web and found all sorts of other beers, such as strawberry, banana and blackberry. Even a potato beer/ale, not sure about that one. There is also a kiwi beer/ale ... might be a little strange - green beer!
Also a recipe for raspberry beer tart ... have to stop there my stomach is rumbling now.
Regards
Su
[This message was edited by Su Lawrence on June 15, 2002 at 22:02.]
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raspberry beer tart!!! Su, if you happen to remember where you saw that recipe I'd love to check into it!!! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] I love to bake treats!!! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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Maya
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It's a done deal Maya, here's the url: http://celebrator.com/9708/BRITFOOD.html. Let me know how it comes out, if you try it. Might give this one a go myself if I can find any raspberry beer.
After checking the site again I see they were tartlets rather than a tart, but I expect you could probably make one big one anyway.
Regards
Su
[This message was edited by Su Lawrence on June 15, 2002 at 22:48.]
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I will check it out and see what I can do with it--will let you know how it works out, it really sounds delicious!!! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
Thanks again!!! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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Maya
