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I have been working on making a 3 column brochure and it looks pretty good. I have a couple of questions. How can you indicate where the fold line is? And when I look at the page gallery it shows a square around part of the page as though the rest is off the page. What is this? But it does print OK.
Hi,
The square around your page may be the 'Printers Margins' anything outside the margins don't print.
Jim
In the View menu there is an option to show print margins see if that is selected
No, everything prints OK, that is what puzzled me.
Screenshot? I don't see this in my P&L galleryQuote:
Originally Posted by gracehjs
Attachment 97491Here it is
Basically one simply communicates to the printer (could be yourself if self-printing) where the fold lines are. It is their responsiblity to do the fold--and you are responsible for where the design elements are located in relation to the folds and bleed area (if any).
The math is simple regardless of paper size. Assuming US Letter size...
First add 0.125" (1/8th) to the total length. Divide that total length by 3 and you will have the width of the two panels. Subtract 0.125" and you will have the width of the short panel (the first folded in panel).
So, 11 + 0.125 = 11.125". 11.125 / 3 = 3.708", which are the wide panels. 3.708 - 0.125 = 3.583" is the width of the first fold panel.
I add guidelines to the fold zones. Duplicate the page, reverse the guides and design accordingly.
If you are printing these, I would recommend taking them to a quick printer like FedExOffice in the US or similar wherever you are. They usually have folding machines and do it for a relatively cheap cost. Fact is, I would talk with them about printing them as well if not doing but a handful. Else I would look to one of the on-line printers for doing quantities. I often use Quantum in the US.
I whipped up a US Letter template and have attached it.
Mike
That doesn't look right, Grace - I can't repeat it here.
Have you been fiddling with the registry setting for the page thumbnail?
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Xara\Xtreme\9.1\Options \ObjectGallery]
"PageThumbWidth"=dword:0000006b
That is what I was doing in the past. Now, I have DTP in XDP9, so I just tell the programme 3 columns and it sorts it out itself. I wondered if there was some kind of option to show the fold lines.
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Originally Posted by mwenz
No, I haven't touched the registry. Is it because it is landscape?
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Originally Posted by sledger
I tried to repeat it with all page types, Grace. Could not.
Can you attach your file? Or a file that shows the same problem?
Attachment 97496Here is the file
Your file displays fine here , Grace.
I did notice that the page numbers in your screenshot are larger than normal.
Perhaps you have your Windows screen scaling set higher than default (100% / 96dpi) This would probably be the cause.
I thought that I was set to normal. I didn't fiddle with anything. However, I just looked at the Xara introduction file and I see the same thing there - so I guess it is something to do with my system. Thanks, as long as it doesn't mean anything I can live with it. I will load XDP9 on my other Windows 8 system and see what happens there.
Thanks.
Glad XDP can have different column widths automagically.Quote:
Originally Posted by gracehjs
The sample wasn't about columns. It was about where the paper was going to be folded. You would have still needed text areas, column-based or not.
Good luck.
One or two of the sample brochures in the designs gallery have fold lines indicated in the guides layer. By default the guides layer is hidden. An example of this is Trifold DL flyer 04 in the second set of brochures, flyers and newspapers. Ideal for chocoholics!
Er, that brochure uses 3 equal width panels. I wouldn't fold it on those lines it will never fold properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by tonylondon
That brochure is an example of a trifold that would look incorrect if folded because you would have paper color and or the solid color crossing the fold line, depending upon whether one is looking at the inside or outside.
My experience is otherwise. We'll have to agree to differ on that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by mwenz
Tony, the panel that is folded in HAS to be shorter than the other two panels on a tri-fold brochure. It will not fit. On a z-fold, the panels are the same width, but not on a tri-fold.
On a tri-fold, if you have a panel that has ink on the folded panel that runs past the fold line, it looks off because there will be about 1/16" of color across the fold. Simple as that. Now, that may look acceptable to some, but it isn't good design.
Yes, I have to agree the template shown should have been called a z-fold not a tri-fold. Therefore your comments do apply.
As Mwenz has pointed out to me, the folds are in a different place depending on whether you intend a z-fold or a tri-fold. (In the latter case one column is slightly narrower than the others). The program would need to ask you your intentions if it were to display the folds correctly automatically.Quote:
Originally Posted by gracehjs
Technically, the gutter on the default columns for the text area will fall into a fold using 3 columns. The fold will be slightly towards the fold on the outside and inside of the folded in panel. I prefer centered text areas (usually) and so design accordingly. And instead of the new columns, I would use separate text areas...but that's me. I also have traditionally done that in page layout software capable of frames with columns. It is less fiddling around for me.
I installed XDP9 on my desktop machine and it behaves fine on it. It must be something to do with the graphics on the DELL XPS-18.
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Originally Posted by sledger
Did you check the windows scaling on the XPS?
Attachment 97535
It should not matter which type of PC or graphics chip you have.
As far as I am aware, Xara's software (still) has it's own graphics routines independent of the graphics card..
But screen scaling does matter.
That was it. It was set to medium. Thanks
QUOTE=sledger;483814]Did you check the windows scaling on the XPS?
Attachment 97535
It should not matter which type of PC or graphics chip you have.
As far as I am aware, Xara's software (still) has it's own graphics routines independent of the graphics card..
But screen scaling does matter.[/QUOTE]
:) Great. Glad it helped.Quote:
Originally Posted by gracehjs