How to find templates I saved on my laptop

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15 October 2019, 03:10 PM
Davora

How to find templates I saved on my laptop

Hi All

I did save templates etc last year before my online update expired this year.

A month ago I had to do a fresh install of Windows 10 due to laptop issues, I did this & chose the option to save all my files/programs etc in a windows old file that is created when I did the fresh install.

I don't know how to find the templates so I can add pages or build a new site, I have Magix premium 15.

Any help much appreciated.

Thank you

Dave
15 October 2019, 03:25 PM
Acorn

Re: How to find templates I saved on my laptop

Dave, it they are still there, look in

Code:

%localappdata%\Xara\WebDesigner\15\Cache\designs\eng\

Copy the bold text into MS Windows Explorer, not a browser.

Acorn
15 October 2019, 07:19 PM
Davora

Re: How to find templates I saved on my laptop

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acorn

Dave, it they are still there, look in

Code:

%localappdata%\Xara\WebDesigner\15\Cache\designs\eng\

Copy the bold text into MS Windows Explorer, not a browser.

Acorn

Hi Acorn

Thanks no luck in finding them, looks like it's going to be a struggle to retrieve! I've read on here in other post that Xara on not very good at helping with this.

Regards Dave
15 October 2019, 09:06 PM
Boy

Re: How to find templates I saved on my laptop

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davora

A month ago I had to do a fresh install of Windows 10 due to laptop issues, I did this & chose the option to save all my files/programs etc in a windows old file that is created when I did the fresh install.

I don't know how to find the templates so I can add pages or build a new site, I have Magix premium 15.

From what I understand Windows automatically deletes the Windows.old folder after a month or so to free up all the space it's taking up.
15 October 2019, 10:12 PM
Egg Bramhill

Re: How to find templates I saved on my laptop

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15 October 2019, 10:17 PM
Chris M

Re: How to find templates I saved on my laptop

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boy

From what I understand Windows automatically deletes the Windows.old folder after a month or so to free up all the space it's taking up.

Yes it does, 28 days to be precise.

Open Windows Explorer and expand 'This PC'
Click C: drive
On the Ribbon (top menu bar) click 'View' > 'Hidden Items'
Open Windows.old and drill into Users > (Account Name) > AppData > Local > Xara > WeDesigner > 15 > Cache > Designs > Eng

Copy the whole Eng folder.
16 October 2019, 07:23 AM
Davora

Re: How to find templates I saved on my laptop

Hi Boy & Chris
Thanks so much! found that file & I'm copying it to my desktop. Can you advise where to put the folder (after copying to my desktop) so I can then access it to make changes to my website?

And how to access it once I open my website on my local machine?

Thank goodness for this forum, without it many times I have got stuck!

Kudos to all on here who give up their time & help, it's really appreciated.

Kind Regards

Dave
16 October 2019, 07:39 AM
Chris M

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Re: How to find templates I saved on my laptop

Look at Acorn post and paste the code into the Explorer Address Bar.

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16 October 2019, 07:43 AM
Davora

Re: How to find templates I saved on my laptop

Hi Chris
Thanks I have found & copied the ENG folder to the desktop, I guess I just need advice on how to access the folder from xara, so I can make changes to my website?

Where do I put this permanently to access it? & does it matter.

Regards Dave
16 October 2019, 07:57 AM
Chris M

Re: How to find templates I saved on my laptop

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davora

Hi Chris
Thanks I have found & copied the folder I guess I just need advice on how to access the folder from xara, so I can make changes to my website?

Regards Dave

Are you sure you found your old folder and not the new one? It would have to be in your 'Windows.old' folder. Acorn's answer points to where you need to put it, not retrieve it.

I think you have copied your existing eng folder and not the one with the original content in it.
16 October 2019, 08:15 AM
Davora

Re: How to find templates I saved on my laptop

Hi Chris
Yes was def' in the old folder I followed the instructions exactly.

I don't understand acorns post as from what I understand that was how to find the ENG folder.

What I don't understand is where to put the ENG folder once I have found it as I copied to to my desktop initially.

I'm sure Xara will need to access it (the ENG folder) to update/edit my site?

Thank you Dave
16 October 2019, 08:31 AM
Chris M

Re: How to find templates I saved on my laptop

It's very similar to retrieving the fold, just a slightly different location:

Open Windows Explorer and expand 'This PC'
Click C: drive
On the Ribbon (top menu bar) click 'View' > 'Hidden Items'
Open Users > (Account Name) > AppData > Local > Xara > WeDesigner > 15 > Cache > Designs

Paste/copy the whole 'eng' folder to the 'Designs' folder. Yes there will already be an eng folder there, but it's fine to let Windows copy into the same place and just choose 'skip' when Windows wants to overwrite existing files.
16 October 2019, 08:39 AM
Davora

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Re: How to find templates I saved on my laptop

Hi Chris
I have opened all the above in the cache folder there is no designs folder only a folder in there with fonts, there is not a folder (yellow) called designs ,will it still be OK to just copy the ENG folder, I take it that it will still work OK?

We are nearly there!

Thanks again!

DaveAttachment 125368
16 October 2019, 08:52 AM
Chris M

Re: How to find templates I saved on my laptop

Hmmm. You may want wait for confirmation, but I see know reason why you can't just create the folder designs in cache, and then drop the eng file in there.
16 October 2019, 08:53 AM
Davora

Re: How to find templates I saved on my laptop

Hi Chris
Thanks I'll try that:) & let you know how I get on.
Dave
16 October 2019, 09:06 AM
Acorn

Re: How to find templates I saved on my laptop

Dave, as you have discovered, Xara's choice of adding its download content into the appdata local folder pathing is not at all sensible as MS doesn't treat it as your data and happily removes it on a rebuild.

Wherever you have located your recovered ENG folder, open XWDP > Local designs gallery > Disc designs > Add folder to gallery, where folder is your current ENG path.

Don't leave ENG on your Desktop.

Acorn
16 October 2019, 09:15 AM
Chris M

Re: How to find templates I saved on my laptop

Acorn, if you move the default location and then download additional content won't Xara dump it into the default location anyway?

I know this doesn't apply to Dave as he doesn't have access to the online catalogue, just curious.
16 October 2019, 09:24 AM
Acorn

Re: How to find templates I saved on my laptop

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris M

Acorn, if you move the default location and then download additional content won't Xara dump it into the default location anyway? I know this doesn't apply to Dave as he doesn't have access to the online catalogue, just curious.

Yes it will but I was future-proofing the situation and handing the case when the owner was no longer in Update service cover. Simply copy over the new ENG to your safe location. Alternatively, put everything into the Xara ENG path and occasionally copy it all to a safe place.

Acorn
16 October 2019, 09:31 AM
Davora

Re: How to find templates I saved on my laptop

Hi Chris & Acorn
That is all working BRILLIANT, thanks so much!!

I did post about how to integrate a real estate theme into my existing site, do you happen to know if I build a separate site & link it to a place holder that will work ?

I guess not, I guess I would have to integrate pages into my site, my ideas was to drag a Xara real estate theme into my existing pages & then link that theme to a place-holder or navigate from a button on my nav bar do you know if that would work?

Many Thanks for all your help!!

Regards Dave
PS I have copied the ENG folder onto a USB stick as a back up!
16 October 2019, 10:53 AM
Acorn

Re: How to find templates I saved on my laptop

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davora

I guess not, I guess I would have to integrate pages into my site, my ideas was to drag a Xara real estate theme into my existing pages & then link that theme to a place-holder or navigate from a button on my nav bar do you know if that would work?

My normal approach is to build two separate sites as they are cleaner and easier to maintain apart.

This is Key
Publish one as the main site; this has a first page named index.
Publish the secondary site with its first page as anything other than index (e.g., estate_home), noting all secondary pages must have different page names to the main site.
For NavBars and buttons between the two sites, use the Link to Web or Email address with the page name and its extension (e.g., estate_home.htm from the main site and index.htm to the main site).
You publish to the same folder. You would then see index_htm_files/ and estate_home_htm_files/ folders and lots of *.htm files in the one location.

You could create a sub-folder estate/ and publish the secondary site to there. Links to it would need to include the folder (e.g. estate/estate_home.htm); the one slight advantage is you could revert back to index for the first page.

I choose the same publish destination as the sites then seem to be integrated and the URLs are smaller.

Acorn
16 October 2019, 11:39 AM
Chris M

Re: How to find templates I saved on my laptop

Dave, if you read Acorn's post and then hop over to your other thread https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...esign-software you will see that I too went down the same path. However, I opted for the sub folder method whereas Acorn favours the single folder option. Reading both may help if you are still unclear.

Sub folder vs single folder - pistols at dawn. Of course, an Australian dawn is a UK twilight so we may never actually get around to it...but the duel is on!