leave aside the politics
read the article - it is long, but worth it
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...gtype=Homepage
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leave aside the politics
read the article - it is long, but worth it
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...gtype=Homepage
What I find almost as distressing at this devastation of California, where I was born and lived for almost 60 years of my life, is that the drastic changes in our planet should be considered political at all. California always had wild fires, some of them major, and flooding and mudslides caused by the inevitable rains that came the following winter. And I have lived through several major earthquakes. But nothing, nothing was as horrendously bad as the heat and the resultant wildfires. Anybody who tries to ignore or dismiss climate change as perhaps the greatest threat to this entire planet, is just in denial or being criminally misled. I am heartsick when I think of what we humans have done to this planet.
due to exploite of environment , we forgot to love the nature, save tree, save life, save human
the times they are a changin' Gary
it matters not why, as we are not clever enough to second guess nature... what matters is that we all understand what it means... for us
And there's one main contender for this title Gary ........Quote:
Anybody who tries to ignore or dismiss climate change as perhaps the greatest threat to this entire planet, is just in denial or being criminally misled.
I'm from Ohio, USA. This thread is very close to being political, because there are two sides to choose from, just like politics. 50 Million years ago, when the big crater was still steaming, it was so hot on this planet that we had palm trees and crocodiles above the arctic circle. This planet will continue to change, regardless if there are people here or not. Long after humans are extinct, this planet will still be here, going through changes as throughout history.
never mind that - the article not about causes but about what choices we as individulas are prepared to make if/when where we live becomes unihabitable; the reasons for that can remain academic, they are irrelevant to the choices to be made when sh*t hits fanQuote:
because there are two sides to choose from
No, I didn't name the moron. Decisions that desparately need to be made unfortunately have to be made by politicians.Quote:
This thread is very close to being political
I am living in the middle of it, as we speak. Outside my window are smokey skies. I am born and raised in Riverside, CA (SoCal). My apartment in Studio City (north of LA) was beat up during the Malibu fires, Northridge earthquake, LA riots, valley floods. The planet and the surrounding suns and planets are a lot bigger than the human influence on our planet. I am not confident that we can contribute much or change much. But, hey, I only live here. On the other hand, it would be wise for us to act as if we could make a difference. And then, let the gods decide. I also hope that the gods will prod Magix a little too. My two cents.
Hi Dan, keep safe.
No argument there but the universe effects our planet over thousand of years, not 100 years. When I was a child sixty years ago I could easily find slow worms and lizards. Hedgehogs were regular visitors to our garden. I haven't seen a slow worm for over 10 years, a lizard even longer. Oh to see a hedgehog family trundle across my lawn.Quote:
The planet and the surrounding suns and planets are a lot bigger than the human influence on our planet.
Your quote above would be accepable over thosands of years period but the loss of of species over the past 100 years IS manmade.We are completely out of balance with nature. Unfortunately it isn't even us who'll reap what we sow, it's our children, grand children and our great grand children.
My grandmother's house was in Studio City and I used to stay there sometimes when my mom was working. (She was an actress). We lived on the other side of the hill.Quote:
My apartment in Studio City (north of LA)
Egg - Steve wanted to not focus on what should be obvious to anyone paying attention but sadly has been made political. Global warming is creating a whole population of people who will have to relocate because of the changing planet.
too right Gary.. there is going to be mass movement/relocation of population across the globe; [and it is too late to stop this, it has already started] and I was wondering just how much this has perculated into the public awarness
climate change brings all manner of issues, not least the availability of clean affordable water to drink - we are caught between evolving arid desert and the rising deep blue sea so to speak
humanity is as much a part of nature as was any of the other natural causes of mass extinction in geological past, and I really do not think human nature is going to change anytime soon..Quote:
but the loss of of species over the past 100 years IS manmade