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got them water droplerts right in the end :thx
Those are super :) A good discussion could start based on these in XaraXone section as addition for Rik's tutorial :)
Coke is beer now? And beer is coke? I am confused :P
Well done! Just one small suggestion: the shadow of the cap is a bit strong and defined. Maybe a lighter shade and a bit more feathering?
Awesome Frank. I don't know if I agree with Fred and Rik or not. Well on second thought I think they are right.
i'm not sure i agree with you guys
here's some photos of bottle caps i found on the interwebs
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look at that shadow
what do you think?
I think that the dark shadows make the bottle caps pop out. You might consider making them even darker but also graduating them, as can be seen in the shadow of the Dr. Pepper cap in the photograph you posted.
those shadows are real larry
they're actual photos
look at the shadow of an object placed on a table in direct sunlight and you'll see they're real
:thx
Frank: Can I take one of your images to show what I mean about the shadow?
I would make the shadow even darker close to the cap and also let it follow some of the ribbed edge where the light hits it and should cast a shadow. That will also make it look more as if the cap is touching the surface it is supposed to be on.
They look perfect to me, Frank. Great job!
thanks ron
they dont look like they need changing to me either
feel free to play with them rik
ones never too old to be proved wrong :thx
I think they look great as they are, brilliant job Frank.
thanks :thx
I payed with a shadow around the edge a bit.
I'm not saying mine is perfect, but, hopefully I can show what I mean!
Mine:
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Yours:
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Hopefull you can see the difference between my shadow and your shadow.
With respect, your shadow looks very unnatural.
Also, you can see that Boy is trying to point out the same thing.
Hi Frank!
I found Your Work excelent. The shadow is a think that comes with the light, it's direction and intensity. And then, it's a ambi-light, spot or what the hell we know?
An other think is optical physics. A waterdrop is like a little magnifying glass. Objects under the drops should be displayed larger. I have quick tried to do it within Xara.
Here my result.
Greets from Old Germany
Ernie
hehehe i like this
we're all talking about end results which is what its all about
ernie you are definitely right
but i'm not doing that because its just too much work ;)
but you are right
rik your shadow is more intense and realistic than mine coming from a spot
but its also wider than the bottle cap which isn't possible unless the spot is a strip
but i get your point
also youre comparing to my first red cap, not the second, posted just after the coors image
boy, your shadow hits the spot too
kudos to us all, we're all flippin xartists to the core
the point is its all good discussion
at least were not arguing about the bloody pen tool, lol!
:thx
Great looking bottle caps BF, especially with the added water drops.
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In fact, if it wasn't for the Shape Tool, I doubt I would have produced much in Xara.
Also, just received my XDP-X9 disk in the post.
And the Pen Tool is not listed on the quick tips and shortcuts card. Maybe it's on its way out!
Yes Frank, within Xara is this a bloody work. Just a click and You achive this efect in CorelDraw with it's lens tool (see screenshot).
I find the shape tool in Xara has its authority. It is, assuming exercise, quickly trace shapes with this tool.
With XaraReg2 you can insert the pen tool in the flyout permanently.
Greetings from the Bavarian heat
Ernie
I think it depends NOT JUST where the dominate light source is coming from, but how much light is produced from other
areas in and around the object being drawn.
In the real world, there are often more than one light source. Sometimes the light sources coming from different directions are of equal strength
but more often there is one that is dominant.
So, for me, to say that one shadow is correct over another is not accurate. It depends on the artists intention.
You, however, may for aesthetic reasons, prefer a certain shadow over another. Neither is wrong or more correct or more natural.
Here's a couple of actual photos showing just how different shadows can actually be in the real world.
http://anthonyryder.fineaw.com/produ...5_Untitled.jpg http://maverick.inria.fr/Publication...bresDouces.jpg
Notice this photo has numerous shadows coming from single objects, all shadows varying in degree of intensity. (multiple)
you're absolutely right ron
light sources and shadows is a huge topic of its own
getting it right is often a matter of interpretation
The only point I'm trying to make is that irrespective of light source, intensity, or the number of light sources, it's not likely that the shadow is going to be of the same darkness at point 1 and point 2.
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if you say so :thx
Rik is right. right next to the object casting, the shadow the shadow would be darkest. But, not so dark as to obscure the details of the casting object, well that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
Hello Friends of the Fine Arts. It is pointless to talk about a shadow.
In the visual arts, you learn that the shadow comes from the top left. As the intensity of the light source looks like, who knows better than the artist?
But since the artist is free to interpretation, we should rather assess the quality of his drawing. This fact is Excellent.
My five cents!
Greetings from Bavaria,
Ernie
they're called the laws of physics larry
not the opinions of physics, lol :thx
now there i agree with you 120%
not if youre in australia :thx
danke, mein Gläubiger in der Kunst und die Wertschätzung von den Gesetzen der Physik! (google translate, trust me my german is really really bad)
"they're called the laws of physics larry
not the opinions of physics, lol "
OK I'll buy that, but it is our job to depict something as clear and understandable as possible, and doesn't that mean visually improving on reality for the sake of clarity?
Sometimes things get lost in a shadow and that's OK if it is done that way for a certain visual impact. Or on the other hand do we need to get Mr. Scribble on the case?
All I am saying is maybe in reality the shadow may be that dark, but for the sake of the image maybe it could be made a little more transparent if for no other reason than to show what's hidden in the shadow more clearly. But that's just my opinion, so get Mr Scribble after me.
i'm gracefully bowing out of this now
and am only replying as it would be rude not to
see you in another thread
I really like the bottle caps you drew and the challenge to play with the shadows. Thanks!
Reall nice bottle caps! Will try one these days :)
Very good work! Bravo.
You lot make it all look so easy.
Still, good work with the bottle caps.