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With formatting capabilities like those found in MS Word (border, shading, irregular row/columns, etc).
This doesn't have to translate to HTML tables when exported, but that would make sense with proper CSS formatting.
I would also like this object in Xara Xtreme as it is very useful for brochures and other documents.
While this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTkggsBp_5Q) video by Xhris shows a work around, it is still less desirable than a full blown table object.
This becomes particularly evident when you need to resize and/or reformat the table and contents, IMO.
As even web based editors allow for easy-to-use table creation and editing, I hope that this capability is a high priority for upcoming XWD releases...
You can import tables from MS-Word into XWD:
1. Create your table in Word;
2. Export as web page (File/Save as Web Page);
3. Open the exported .htm file in Notepad (or something similar) and copy all code between <table .... and </table>;
4. In XWD, create a placeholder where you want the table to be placed, noting that the placeholder's width will affect the width of the table;
5. Open the Placeholder tab of the Web Properties dialog and paste the code into "Replace with HTML code" box.
The table will be shown exactly as you created it in Word.
Personally, I wouldn't copy the HTML created by MS-Word into a design.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boy
But, yes, there are any number of work arounds. However, the point is that tables are a common element of web pages and the ability to create them natively and intuitively in XWD should be included.
Can I add my voice here too? I have only just started working with XWD and have found it a very useful and nifty program. But I was amazed to find that it did not include any table facilities!! :(
I had always assumed that ANY program professing to do web design today would have table facilities (and not just for text) (and frames as well). How about it Xara?
Welcome to TG Colin,
I think the point to realize is that Web Designer is not a HTML editor, therefore it stands that it is not going to offer the same HTML layout tools as a traditional HTML editor.
With Web Designer there is NO HTML at all involved. You simply create your page design directly and graphically then 'export' the design to html.
Web Designers .web format is your design project file (always save a copy) which is 100% HTML free.
You can add HTML tables via a placeholder, but the <table> code will need to be created in a HTML editor (or notepad if you know how to code a table) first.
Same thing for framsets, these are HTML elements.
See here for a way to create something that works like a frameset in Web Designer.
Actually, my point was that as a document editor, it should handle table creation and editing as a design element. Word, Open Office, and other document editors are not (strictly speaking) HTML editors, but allow you to easily utilize tables, without reverting to inserting code generated from other apps or hand coding.Quote:
Originally Posted by sledger
Steven the program is a graphics design application that happens to export html. It is not a document editor in a traditional sense.
I think we're nitpicking here. It is a web document.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soquili
Call it a feature request. I don't care whether they export it as an HTML table.
Hi all,
I am new with XWD but have used Webstyle for some time.
I have been trying to find a workaround to the tabl;es problem and read your posts with interest.
I agree that some for of table designer in the program would put the finishing touches to an otherwise brilliant and easy to use piece of software. I am yet to discover if some of the features of Webstyle can be incorporated, but I guess that may not be needed once I get the hang of XWD
Ta,
Caldane
With new feature of the text anchored objects, it is much easier to create tables that can be dynamically edited in the Xtreme 5.
I can't create video tutorial, but if somebody is interested in doing it I can explain the idea.
I'm interested. How about a .xar attached example? :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by covoxer
Here comes the attachment. :)
But it may be not obvious how to use it or how to create it. I just think that video tutorial would be the best way to explain how it works.
So, some general rules how to work with attached example:
1. Table is a single text object with separators and other objects anchored.
2. To resize the table, select it and resize using Text tool.
3. To change width of the column, make sure you have rulers visible (Ctrl+L), select all text in the table with Text tool (Ctrl+A), and drag tab stops on the ruler appropriately.
4. To change row height, select row with Text tool and adjust line spacing.
5. To insert, remove, replace lines simply do it with text tool - they are just a lines of text.
6. Cells in the line are separated by the tab.
etc., etc.
It is easier to grasp the idea than to follow endless instructions...
And the idea is:
As I say, the table is a text area with cells separated by the Tab. Nothing special here.
The graphic elements are anchored objects, and they also are stretched by the table.
Analyze names gallery for stretching. Ask questions for more information. I'll be glad to help. :)
I can see lots of uses for this new achoring attribute. Cool. :cool:
(This is new for Xtreme 5, and it hasn't been implemented for the current version of Web Designer.)
I still vote for a table construction feature similar to the original poster's description (in some future release). ;)
I am brand new to Web Designer 6. It is an amazing program.
But I, too, ran into a brick wall where tables are concerned. I need tables in some of my web pages. And to have to use another program to create them is a pain since they cannot be edited once they are imported.
From my perspective, this is a significant shortcoming and I would hope it would be addressed in future versions.
I like the interface and power of this program, but I may have to table it for new web site development and go back to my old authoring tools.
Just another perspective...
- Jim
However, we are getting much more desktop publishing features. There is no valid reason why a table cannot be included. As Steven says, it doesn't have to be a html table, just function as a table in the graphic. It's invaluable for brochures etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soquili
You're right John, it's not obvious, but works perfectly. I think I'm going to have to study this more ....Quote:
Originally Posted by covoxer
I agree with the fACT THAT WE NEED EDITABLE TABLES FOR wEB dESIGNER AND FOR deSIGNER.
Sorry accidentally hit the caps lock!
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