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Hello.
I am currently running the trail of Xara Web designer and considering purchase, which I can obtain for £25. However it seems as it is yearly commitment for update. Is this expensive? Can anyone tell me the current cost of an upgrade. Hope you can help
Thank you.
Ross
Welcome to TalkGraphics
The "update service" provides access to the updates and bug fixes, online content, templates, photos, etc. But once you purchase the product you own it. All the tools and features you have when you purchase the product remain. But to get new features, updates, etc. requires the yearly fee. Or if you skip a year or two, an upgrade price.
The purchase price covers the first year which includes updates. Understand that. Upgrade price after the first year is..?
https://www.magix.com/us/photo-graph...-designer-pro/
Not sure what the price is to renew your update service. I think it is around $100+ but I am not sure.
Has anybody renewed your Update Service recently and if so what did it cost?
Ross, do not buy Web Designer, save up and buy Web Designer Premium. Gary was trying to flog Xara's far more expensive product.
Upgrading is usually 70% a year.
*The domain alone is "worth" over £20.
Web Designer Web Designer Premium New £35 £50 Upgrade £20 £35 Differences Over 35 website templates
Over 500 design elements
Over 240 website templates
Over 1,000 design elements
Over 130 photo filters
Animations & Effects
Advanced image editing
2 GB web storage & domain*
Acorn
I flog not.
And, you should read through the link in this sticky to understand about the Update Service. There is no obligation to renew at the end of a year, but there is a limitation if you should ever have to reinstall.
so think very carefully whether you wish to have that hand tied behind your back - and remember, the company exists to make money, reflect on how they do that and what your other options may be...Quote:
but there is a limitation if you should ever have to reinstall.
gwpriester
Thank you for the information.
Acorn
Thank you for the table.
As I read it
Xara Premium
£50 for purchase for one year which includes a Domain name.
£35 for the update per year following, which includes the domain name.
A lot to think about. As a retired silver surfer trying to rekindle my interest in web design (originally with Serif WebPlus) I would like to bring my skills up to date. If a domain is included, then I will be obligated to update. Hmmm!
I don't need extras as I already have Serif Affinity. Photo, Designer and Publisher. All were one-off purchases with life updates.
I do like the Xara programme. It is virtually Serif WebPlus, but up to date. Serif ended 'Plus' programmes in 2015. Hence my interest in Xara. Therefore I think I need to consider the following. Xara Web Designer or Premium. £25 or £50 with more facilities.
Thank you once again to all for your help and information.
Ross
No it is not expensive if your making money off of it. If your a designer and having clients, your first small project will pay off for it. It is also a business cost. If your hobbyist then there are many free applications out there to use. Sorry not being mean or anything.
No need to renew the update service every year as you can pay for the M-Hosting separately as I just did - $24US. I did not renew last July.
The caveat is that if you are outside of the Update Service period and have to reinstall, the program installed will be the version available when you last paid. Thus if you have any projects that used features that came out after you paid, that is, during the Update Service 1 year period, you could have some problems. Should that happen, renewing solves the problem.
Secondly, if you don't plan on renewing, download all of the on-line catalogue content before expiry.
behzad
Thank you for the comment. No offence taken. I appreciate the inference regarding business or hobby. I have no clients.
I am looking at the program for enjoyment. It really does look good. The more I look at it, the more I think I will enjoy it. I've still got 29 days left on Xara Web Designer trial.
I'm a member of this forum, therefore will use and digest the comments. Being retired means that I don't have much spare time and can only spare an hour a day for practice. Only someone who is retired will understand what I mean.
Regards and thanks to all who have given your time in answers
Ross
no it gets backs what you had before, by making you pay more for it - john [browj2] still does not understand the actual problemQuote:
Originally Posted by browj2
The domain offering is very, very basic but good enough for a hobbyist. You don't get SSL, you don't get PHP, you don't get email. I pay much more for all of these but I can host other domains for paying customers.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossjackson01
The M-domain I have I use for TG support. I would far prefer it not to be included and get a discount back.
Web Designer is truly not worth considering. With Premium, you would be able use all in http://downloadsv16.xara.com/web/catalog/index.html for the year on-line and also download everything locally to use indefinitely.
Acorn
for a 'hobbyist' hosting is cheap enough to buy elsewhere with your own top level domain - personally I have no faith whatsoever in the magix hosting package continuing as it is or not morphing into something less attractive to the customer; the track record is not good
I fully understand the actual problem AND the solution. Please, let's not go there again.Quote:
Originally Posted by handrawn
the problem is losing access - paying to get it back is not a solution to that problem, it is effectively a workaround that leaves you out of pocket if you have no other benefit from the renewal, and in my opinion it is unfair
I am glad you understand that ;)
I understand that fully. You describe what is probably the worst case, "...if you have no other benefit from the renewal."Quote:
Originally Posted by handrawn
The other solutions are: 1. Magix/Xara scraps the Update Service program or, 2. Magix/Xara lets you reinstall whatever was available at the end of the Update Service period, whether or not you had actually updated.
and does that make it any less relevant ? ...Quote:
Originally Posted by browj2
the second two 'solutions' are hypothetical because they are not actually available to us, are they? - in the second case especially the bug fixes...
handrawn, brownj2.
Comments noted on a good discussion. Nice to see such without discord. I like this forum.
I've purchased Premium for £40, as a birthday present to myself. It will give me at least a years up to date practice, and fun beyond.
Thank you to all. I'll now be questioning you all again on other simple problems.
Regards
Ross
we look forward to it - have fun :D