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What model of Wacom tablet do most of you use, those or you who have them?
I have seen the Graphire and Intuous models. The price difference is dramatic between the models. Would the less expensive 4 X 5 Graphire offer enough funtionality for someone who used it occasionally but not professionally?
Those who have the Intuous models, do you often use the programmable function keys at top?
I'd like to know if the less expensive ($100 US) would be worthwhile for general use, or should I save my money for a better one to get more better features? Would I likely not use all the features of the more expensive tablet, as an amateur and occasional user?
Thanks!
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What model of Wacom tablet do most of you use, those or you who have them?
I have seen the Graphire and Intuous models. The price difference is dramatic between the models. Would the less expensive 4 X 5 Graphire offer enough funtionality for someone who used it occasionally but not professionally?
Those who have the Intuous models, do you often use the programmable function keys at top?
I'd like to know if the less expensive ($100 US) would be worthwhile for general use, or should I save my money for a better one to get more better features? Would I likely not use all the features of the more expensive tablet, as an amateur and occasional user?
Thanks!
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Good questions Dale, I'm interested in a tablet myself too. What I have read though is that Wacom is the only one who can produce tablets that last a lifetime. I would prefer an Intuous, but hey, that's a lot of money and I think I'll wait until I'm allowed to spoil myself again [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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I have had two 4x5" Wacoms, and earlier I had a 12x15" CalComp. People usually think that you need the bigger size to draw best, but I found that I never ever used all the space on my large CalComp - drawing larger just made it harder to draw accurately, as the curves would get more shaky, etc.
Konklusion: save your money and get a 4x5".
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I have a 8 x 6 and am happy with it. The only people I know about that seem to need larger tablets are those who are used to doing large gester strokes. i.e. the full arm swing.
I too had a large Cal Comp and when the pen broke, and the company that bought the product did not support older models I had to throw it out. Going to a much smaller tablet was no problem at all.
I do not ever use any of the programable features, but in Painter do change the sensitivity of the pen depending what brush I use. For Xara it wouldn't make that big of difference.
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I had already decided I would get a 4 X 5, because of my limited space, and I thought it would be easier to work with a smaller tablet for my purposes. Thanks Klaus, for putting my mind at ease about going with the smaller tablet.
So, is there any substantial difference between the Graphire2 and the Intuous2, other than more levels of pressure and programmable hot keys?
The Graphire2 seems to be the one I am leaning towards, because it is more affordable and it seems to have most of the features of the Intuous, except tilt. Are there any really handy features notably absent from the cheaper models(Graphire)?
In other words, is it worth it to spend double the price of the Graphire 4 X 5 for the Intuous 4 X 5?
Judi, I am assuming you can change the sensitivity of the pen in both the Graphire and Intuous models. Is that correct?
Klaus, do you use the Graphire or Intuous, and why?
That should just about cover my questions, and thanks very much for your replies!
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I was logged in, but it posted my post as a "guest."
Weird.
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Graphire tablet---but hardly ever use it after getting an optical mouse---for my use the mouse actually offers more control and I can draw anything with it now with ease. My tablet just gathers dust! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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Dale I got one of Wacoms reconditioned tablets and it looked like new. I attached a screen shot of the Wacom tablet properties window if that will help any.
Mike
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Hi Dale... I have a Graphire 2 and I love it... worth every penny, and for my meager painting needs it worx just fine... the cordless mouse that comes with is a dream, and the small size of the Graphire makes for cross screen travel at but a slight move of the wrist... [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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I have the 4x5 graphire and don't think I need a larger size. I like that size as I don't really draw with my arm much even on paper ... hand an wrist. Some day I'd like an Intuos but would probably stay with the 4x5.
A lot of software doesn't take advantage of the Intuos with it's tilt and other advanced features ...Painter is the one which comes to mind.
Of course if you don't need pressure sensitiveness, there's a good portion of the use of it gone. I use it extensively while drawing my ideas using Expression 2 software for my watercolour and ink paintings (ah the vector lines which widen or narrow with pen pressure are very handy).
I also use it for any other graphics need and sometimes just clicking links surfing the net [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]. I find the pressure sensitive pen is great for web surfing as the website actually loads faster the harder you press the pen on the link ( hahaha ... would have been great when I had a snooze-up modem [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] )
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weldorman ... since you brought up the wacom control program (and such brilliant windows colours you have there [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]), I thought I'd mention that I turn off the double-click assist in the double click tab. I found this was making me double click when I was only touching the pen tip on something. it was very annoying. I don't know if anyone else noticed this or was it just me who had this problem.
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Great information!
Weldorman, is that a screen shot of the Graphire?
Thanks, everyone!
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It is screen shot of the properties window where you make all of your settings for the Graphire2 tablet. If you would like to see more of the options let me know and I will send more screen shots.
"Weldorman, is that a screen shot of the Graphire?"
It is not a screen shot of the tablet if that is what you mean.
Mike
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Thanks, I just needed to know the model you were showing the properties/options of.
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Yeah Dale, the wacom program lets you select individual programs and set different things to the buttons on the pen. You can even set a combination of keystrokes for one of the directions of the rocker switch ( in the middle of the pen which I can activate with the thumb). So lets say in your program when the space bar is held down, you can grab the page and pan. You could set this to (for example) the rocker switch pressed forward (not that it's not as easy to just hold the space bar down with the other hand but what if you have a coffee in that hand .... think of the possibilities for unhampered beverage consumption [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] ). In XaraX I had one of these set to pop-up the colour editor ( I think ctrl-e was the key shortcut).
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It would also appear that there are several versions of drivers and software that come with Graphires... notice that the version I have does not have as many options as does the version Weldorman has...
http://www3.telus.net/thegidgitzone/wacomgui.gif
hmmmm, wonder if there is an update??...
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I've used the higher-end Wacoms for around 6 to 7 years now and I wouldn't trade my Intuos for the world. Using a computer with a mouse is so disconcerning, I really can't stand to work on a machine without an Intuos. At work, I had them order me a 9x12" USB Intuos. At home, I also use a 9x12" USB Intuos (the cool dark blue graphite looking ones). Again, I can't even concentrate in vector drawing programs or 3d programs without my Wacom stylus.
However, I will admit that I NEVER use the little shortcut button strip across the top. I find it's a bit awkward. My ideal setup has one hand on the keyboard for shortcuts, and my right hand on the tablet.
Personally, the size of the Graphire is just too small. I wasn't able to be as precise. The minimum size that I would recommend is the 6x8, but ideally the 9x12 is as close to perfection as one can get.
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Btw, I just wanted to add, that except for Photo-Paint, I really don't use the tilt or pressure sensitivity of the Intuos. It has awesome support and control over pressure, but since most applications don't have decent support for it, it goes mostly unused. What I like the most about the tablet is the natural precision of the pen verses the mouse. An Intuos has more than six times the precision as the best optical mouse (I also own a logitec optical mouse). That's what I'm so attached to - the raw precision and ease of use. That's why a 4x3 would simply be too small for me. I do know a couple people who prefer the small size. Personally, if I was concerned with desk space, I would go with the 6x8 (that was my first tablet). Once I got hooked, though, I made it a point to clear off more desk space.
The great thing, though, is that the tablet is soooo durable, you can use it for just about anything. I often eat dinner on my 9x12 Wacom. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif[/img]
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Gidgit , you have selected the mouse while weldorman's screenshot shows the pen selected. The resulting options are different for each (on mine, with the mouse selected, it shows the four you have while with the pen selected it shows the 6 tabs weldorman has shown.
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haha, thanx Dave, you are sooooo right...
I simply loaded the software in, accepted default settings as everything seemed to work just fine and that was that...paints fine, mouse works great
Don't know if I will change anything ... any suggestions ?
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If everything works to your satisfaction I'd suggest you follow these steps
1 ... take 10 deep breathes
2 ... carefully move the cursor to the X in the upper right of the wacom program
3 ... press on the left mouse button with the index finger and release
4 ... never activate the wacom program again
heheh ..... best not tempt the computer gods to mess up somethig that works for ya [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
Seriously , though , I never use the mouse as it feels wierd on top of the tablet to me. But when I did try it I had to turn off mouse acceleration! It was driving me nuts. For the pen I unselected the double click assist. But that's my perference.
As far as programming the buttons , it could be useful in various programs
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hahaha, you be a funny guy there Dave... [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
yea, I agree, never mess with that that worx for ya...
You never use the mouse ? I use it steady, I find the pen awkward to use as a mouse, though the pen is a dream to paint with... I have my old mouse pad right beside the tab and when I need to use the pen I park the mouse on the old pad...
Thanx again Dave [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
