I have always been curious as to what people think of the two programs. I have many friends who hate one or the other and i want to know which you prefere.
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I have always been curious as to what people think of the two programs. I have many friends who hate one or the other and i want to know which you prefere.
I find that the two together is essential. Each has their own set of features which make them both 'stand alone' apps, of course. But PS effects, used in Illustrator and Illustrator effects imported into PS extends the capabilities of both. It's like asking; which do you prefer, a sports car or a 3 ton 4wd truck? Obviously they each have their place, and in a perfect world, you should have both.
It's like comparing apples with oranges. :confused:
I prefere Photoshop :)
I Can understand that, and ideally you should have both but say you couldn't afford both. Which would you get ?Quote:
Originally Posted by ronmatt
Comparisons need to be made. Thats how things get tested and "evolve".Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueFlare
The two programs are different, one being a pixel pusher and the other a vector application.
I have not upgraded Illustrator since version 10 and don't even have that currently installed on any of my computers.
I also haven't upgraded Photo Shop since CS, don't use it enough to warrant the upgrade to CS2.
I also haven't upgraded from the cs creative suite. Can't find a reason why I should. And I also still use PS7 for most things, as I have, over the years added plugins, shapes and styles, many of which I made myself, that PSCS doesn't want to use. As to which one OF the two would I recommend. Then Photoshop, hands down. Just watch your text. Rastered text sucks but you can maintain vectors if you build and save the file correctly This really only applies if you design for print. Although scalable vector images are needed for screen as well at times
Sure, as long as you don't compare apples with oranges. It's like which is better: the pencil or the brush, oil paint or water paint?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Draker
Photoshop is a bitmap editor, Illustrator is vector program.
I prefer Photoshop as a bitmap editor over other bitmap editors, but if I have to do create serious vector designs I prefer Illustrator.
Ron, how can you recommend Photoshop over Illustrator when you don't know what the user's intentions are, to work professionally with either vectors or bitmap? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by ronmatt
Let me make it clear guys that Photoshop is not a true vector application. Sure, you can do some little vector stuff, but once you want to do something more complicated that also need fully scalable then you have no other choice then to use a true vector application.
To go back to the original question. The original question was: which do you prefer?
Again, this depends on what kind of graphics you're working on.
Let's be honest, no Illustrator lover will prefer their beloved application over Photoshop (or any other image editor) to retouch photographs...
i vote for photoshop
i find it easier and more flexible.
maybe cuz i tried once to learn how to use Illustrator but it was too hard for me.
Blueflare, I only suggested PS because, these days it seems that the majority of people prefer to do things for the web as opposed to print, in which case 'vector' is almost meaningless. Learning Illustrator is also much more difficult, Not that PS is REALLY any easier, but any novice can, at least, see some progress in PS much quicker.I design for print, thus PS, ILL. In Design and Acrobat are essential and I really couldn't do without any of them. But, asked to make a choice, I choose the most common denominator. PS
True. I still stand by photoshop though especally in my profession. Photshop to me is an alround program where as Illustrator seems to be more professionalised.
When I eat soup - I use a spoon, and when I eat Prime Rib - I use a fork and knife. Or as mention - comparing the two, is like comparing apples and oranges - a completely pointless excercise!
Scalable graphics, spot colours, and pinpoint accuracy path operations -- Illustrator. "Manipulating" bitmaps and painting/drawing "natural media style" (or in combination) -- Photoshop. At least when comparing the two (there are a great number of alternatives that can be used as substitutes/complements/speed-ups to what you need to do). And a few are present in different forums here at Talkgraphics).
Me (of the two mentioned) - Illustrator 9 (functionality wise I would not upgrade unless PDF files becomes an issue for me) and Photoshop 7 (functionality wise would not upgrade unless digital photography is something I got "really" in to, and retaining/manipulating the gamult of 16 bit files became an issue).
Hi
I'm a professional Graphic Designer.
How can you compare Photoshop with Illustrator, one is a bitmap program the other is a vector program.
If want to change or fix photos use photoshop, but don't design with it. if you enlarge your design it will pixelate thats what vector software is for.
If you want to Design Graphics, logos, business cards, etc use a vector program.
If you want to compare the two, you should ask Photoshop or Photopaint,
Illustrator or CorelDRAW.
I've been with CorelDraw since version 3 and Photoshop for about three years only but I've never even opened 'Illustrator'. If, as mentioned above, Illustrator is a vector prog like CorelDraw then it can't be compared with Photoshop - it's neither 'worse' nor 'better', they are two different animals.
With the more recent 7.0, CS and CS2, what you can do in Photoshop has encorporated much that you had to do in an illustration program. Now if you prefer, you are able to use Photoshop.
As far as ease of use, Photoshop is much easier.
Illustrator is a case of how not to select what you don't want.
Just because something is complicated doesn't make it good. Look at Xara, what can't you do and it is simple.
I notice a lot of misunderstanding about Photoshop's fake vectors and true vector programs. Maybe this example explains the difference:
http://www.khulsey.com/demo_1howto.html
I'm fairly new to these applications. As such, I'm more interested in differences I can deal with as a new user. One that seems obvious is that I can't insert multiple images into one file in Photoshop. However, I can do this in Illustrator. For instance, in Illustrator, I can place an image (e.g., a photo of a bird or flower) into a photo of a face. So, I can create a face with a flower in its mouth, and/or birds in its eyes. I think this can be done in Illustrator natively, but I have to use layers in Photoshop. Is this accurate?
You need to use layers in Photoshop it is true and if you have many items, grouping and editing objects in layers helps to be able to select them.
i dont know abt illustrator but i like to use photoshop the most:)