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Pressure sensitivity strokes are very thin ...
I just started to use a Lenovo Yoga C940 with a (wacom?) stylus. Inkscape, Illustrator and OneNote record the pressure perfectly but Xara Designer Pro + constantly interprets pressure way too low. Hence I end up with strokes which are too thin when using the Pen or I have to adjust the pen width to 36.
Is there any method to adjust the pressure sensitivity in Xara Designer Pro?
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I've never used a tablet so I am not sure if this will help. When the Freehand Tool is selected there is a button for Sketch Mode. Does this do anything?
Steve (Handrawn) uses a stylus so when he checks in I am sure he will have a suggestion.
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Sketch mode is something completely different.
But to elaborate: when switching to normal (i.e. non pressure mode) the lines are all right and with desired width (0.5 pt). When swtching to the pressure mode the line width is still 0.5pt but due to pressure being recorded with too less pressure it's merely 1mp and hence not visible.
I've used all sorts of styli during the last decennia (Wacom, Acer, etc.) but this one stumps me. So far I discovered that this particular pen is a Wacom AES technology.
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there is no way to tweak the pressure sensitivity that I know of in xara, it is either on or off
there is a registry key but AFAIK is only has on/off [1/0] values that do anything
I do not know the tablet in question - it may have program specific settings for stylus control - the stylus itself may have drivers that can be so set
restaring everything sometimes works; if the stylus was installed after xara, reinstalling xara may help but run it as administrator first in case that helps
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it's worth checking you have wintab drivers installed:
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xara probably needs these, but modern tablets may use windows ink and not have them installed by default
you should be able to get the right ones for your tablet from lenovo site if you need them
if you have to install these then you may need to reinstall xara again afterwards
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Originally Posted by
handrawn
it's worth checking you have wintab drivers installed:
Hmmm, worth a try. I had already tried the latest driver from Wacom but it reported that there was no Wacom compatible hardware (though the Lenovo driver heavily depends on Wacom software)
I'll try to install the Wintab driver. Thanks for the tip!
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er... that's
a/ not the latest WinTab
b/ for w10 (not w11)
c/ to be seen if the missing WinTab really is the reason for the behaviour ...
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ok - you don't say which Yoga C940 you have - I see two models on their site; but either way lenovo do not seem to provide anty windows 11 specific drivers, which may mean you use the windows 10 but you would have to check
also did you check to see if the .DLL files are in your directory
it seems that lenevo only do windows 11 specific wintab drivers for thinkpad, could not see any for the yoga
may be lenovo, or xara, could give you some advice
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Hi guys, don't forget that when you draw in Xara with the Freehand Brush Tool, you are always drawing paths.
If you switch on pressure recording, you only change the brush that Xara uses. To change the thickness, you can only use the line thickness.
In my experience, the only way to draw reasonably naturally in Xara is to use the Shape Painter Tool in Paint mode.
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Examples of where I use this are in my woodcut drawings by Dürer.
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@ernie-f, good to know.
You make it look so easy.
Acorn
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hi ernie, your art work is magnificent :)
if you draw with the shape painter tool you get shapes, not lines, often this is not what is required, but yes, you can get excellent results when it is
all lines are textured strokes - what you say does not really address the issue that michael is having, which is that the pressure profile ['stroke shape' on the fly] is not profiled correctly
EDIT - I am assuming here that when michael draws a pressure profiled line it is not possible for him to get anywhere near the width set on the infobar, which would be the maximum achieveable for maximum pressure; it should not be that difficult to achieve, unless settings in wacom or other software are overiding xara, as mentioned before...
if the drivers are wrong that too might be a factor; the xara freehand drawing tool is more than 20 years old, a lot has changed
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Yep handraw I know. But Xara can't handle this becaus it uses a line/brush profile.
Xara has not the abillity to change responsive the lineprofile. Thats that thing. Others do it better – but Xara is Xara, live with it or leave it.
This problems I have since my first Xara version and in this time I used six Drawing Tablets from Wacom to now Huion.
The Huion is in my opinion the best deal and feels to me better then the Wacoms.
Drawing in Xara is not like painting. I've found my way how to do. For my work it's not nesassery if I have a line or an objekt.
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here are three freehand lines I drew in xara designer:
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the program responds very well to the pressure I exert, and I can get from very thin to very thick in one stroke - the thick strokes are close to the infobar size
it is not possible to change the profile afterwards, agreed - but that is not what I understand michael to be saying; I read his post to mean he could not draw the full range between thin and thick, that the maximum size that could be drawn was much lower than that on the info bar...
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Originally Posted by
ernie-f
Drawing in Xara is not like painting...
on that we can agree
I don't use the program any more for freehand drawing because of it's inflexibility, but it should at least respond as intended
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My last idea what can disturb is the Windows Ink think.
I have it allways turned off.
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pretty sure xara uses wintab not windows ink myself
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Switch it on – test it.
Switch it off – test it.
I have this behavior when Windows Ink is switched on.
And by default Windows have it switched on. Every Update again it's switched on.
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could be - I have not switched it off in my wacom settings - but if it were to be switched off, michael would need to have the wintab drivers I presume...
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Don't know that exactly but what I know they are since win 10 on board.
Because the problem with it I had under win 10 too.
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well at least we can both have it working...
for a couple of years or so pressure sensitivity in inkscape did not work with wacom on windows [python library issue]a nuisance, as if you want shapes drawn as lines, the inkscape calligraphy tool is very useful
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Agree!
But Coreldraw and Adobe have good drawing tools for tablet drawer too.
In AI is a tool that is near to Xaras Shape Painter Tool caled The Blob Brush tool.
In Coreldraw is a calligraphy brush as vectordrawing tool to.
Inkscape in the latest version, is an awsome free vectror drawing piece of software and some functions are light years ahead compared to Xara.
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So; it was the WinTAB after all. Just came home and installed a WinTAB driver (the first one I could get hold on. For anyone in the future having the same issues: look for gqgt01ww.exe. You'll find copies all over the Internet)
After the restart of Windows 11 fired up Xara Designer and, lo and behold, finally a working pressure pen again!
Thanks a lot for you all. And kudo's for Handrawn, for he nailed it!
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you are welcome, I am glad it now works as it should :)