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Hey fello Xarians, this cart is for a t-shirt design that is about to be seperated for print. I have to sep it tomorrow so I thought I'd post this & get some input beforehand.
It's 95% finished & the customer is happy with the everything but I think the wheels are off. Can't seem to put my finger on the problem but something is wrong. I'd like to fix the wheels before I seperate the artwork, but can't isolate the problems. The seats might be off as well. Could be a perspective or lighting thing. I'm really uneasy about this & have become blind to what's wrong. Just doesn't feel right.
Sky look familiar? Grabbed it from the dodge truck piece.
Any input will be appreciated. Rip it up ya'll, I the help!
Thanks in advance.
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Hey fello Xarians, this cart is for a t-shirt design that is about to be seperated for print. I have to sep it tomorrow so I thought I'd post this & get some input beforehand.
It's 95% finished & the customer is happy with the everything but I think the wheels are off. Can't seem to put my finger on the problem but something is wrong. I'd like to fix the wheels before I seperate the artwork, but can't isolate the problems. The seats might be off as well. Could be a perspective or lighting thing. I'm really uneasy about this & have become blind to what's wrong. Just doesn't feel right.
Sky look familiar? Grabbed it from the dodge truck piece.
Any input will be appreciated. Rip it up ya'll, I the help!
Thanks in advance.
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I'm sure its a perspective thing - or a lack of it! I'm sure with a tweak this will be even better.
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wW
Really nice – I’m a big fan of your work! I did a tractor a while back (attached) and also had some trouble with the tires. I still don’t like the image (my tractor) that much – something not right..
You may want to try some dark grey ‘highlights’ on the tires. Also adding flat areas on the bottom of the tires may make them look more convincing. You may also want to adjust/rotate the spokes on one of the two wheels – so they don’t look like copies. Regarding the tires on the far side, you could make them a little smaller and raise them up a little to help with the perspective. I had trouble making my tires look like they weren’t floating – I found that gradient shadows under the tires helped.
I would agree with you on the perspective of the seats. The seat, and seat platform furthest away needs to be moved back (right) a little. Also the seat furthest away needs to be smaller –I would say around 10% horizontally and 5% vertically. One last idea – a shadow line across the nearest seat and the further seat in shadow might work.
Again nice work! Hope this helps.
Steve
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Aww shucks Steve! I'm turning all red in the face http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/redface.gif
I like your tractor! I see what you mean about the tires though. At first glance nothing seems askew. But when you stare at the rear tire it starts to turn on ya. It's doing the same for my image as well. Could it be, we are too close to our work? Never satisfied? We can be overly critical at times eh? With your tractor, I don't think you have anything to worry about. It's a solid image.
Since I'm printing on shirts, shadows tend to print darker so they are represented ligher. I'd like to see them darker & hopefully they will print darker as expected. (Actually, they never print as expected, will probably end up too dark...) So many variables http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/confused.gif
With screen printing, as the ink is being pushed hard thru the screens to get the solid black areas, gradients of that color suffer & become become darker-almost solid at times). Since I do have percentages of black they have to be ligher to compensate unless I can use a grey plate(which I'm not). In this case I have Black, Blue, Yellow & Red Orange to work with. Trying to get the most out of the 4 colors.
What happened to your avitar Simon? The perspective lines helped BTW.
Thanks ya'll, changes attached! Me thinks, me never satisfied?
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wW,
Very nice golf cart! http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
At first, I thought that the tires were just too big and black. Then, after looking at it for a while, I realized that the sidewalls aren't defined. Not that they wouldn't be black anyway, but there's nothing for your eye to "catch" on there, so it looks odd.
Also, the right front tire (the far side) is just a silhouette. It may be turned away a bit from absolute alignment with the near-side tires, but *some* tread surface might show.
Of course, I have no idea what this would look like on a t-shirt, so all that might be moot. http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
But whatever makes the customer happy...
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Terry, don't doubt your observations because it's going on a t-shirt. What you say is correct. I've modified the tires to show some side wall & a touch of color on the back front tire.
Regarding the customer, They are thrilled with what I've done. I have issues with it so I figured a few slight modification would help. That's why I'm posting here. Thanks for the observations & input so far. Tires fixed & attached.
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bEETLE! Thanks for the reply. Those tires really look balooned out. I'll have to make changes now & move that hi-light up. "Daaannnng!"(quote by NapoleonD)
Oh, the shadows will print twice as dark as what's shown (sometimes darker), caution must be used in those area's. Wouldn't want the wheel edges to get lost in the shadows.
"Seperations are more art form, than science", as I'm starting to learn - the hard way...
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wW,
I like your picture so much.
It seems to me you have to fix some details in your drawing.
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Thankyou Valery! Your input suggestions have been incorporated as well as the bEETLE tire improvements.
Awsome help everyone! Thanks for posting. I'm finially starting to feel good about the cart now.
Sometimes you see how to make improvements, other times you stop seeing & need the help of others.
"Like a cool breeze on a hot day"
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Hey Waldo,
no corrective ideas from this quarter. How about adding a winch on the front and a putter wrapped around the front brush guard...
How about some caddies under the tires...
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Naw ... you just need a rack for "golf clubs" on the back ... and a little groundhog peeking out from behind the accelerator pedal http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
Seriously, the changes made all the difference ... nice work guys http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/cool.gif ... and great looking golf cart wW http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/cool.gif
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Thanks Ed, everyones help has been much appreciated. I'll post one final image & remove the image above when I get to that fix unless any other obsevation are brought forth.
The back tire is going to show more tire face around the area where it intersects the furthest back tire. In this situation the dup of the front tire doesn't work. The way it is now the tire looks tapered along that bottom front edge. Appears to have camber & this isn't a Nascar... http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/wink.gif I got lazy by duping the front tire.
For now, I have a couple fires to put out, then I'll finish the cart. Thanks again ya'll!
Tire modified & attached. I think it's done now. Comments, Suggestions?
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http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...omparepost.jpg
I thought I'd post this for anyone that might be interested.
The left image was exported to Photoshop as a CMYK Tif 300dpi. I created this actual size on a new Xara layer by duping it & changing all the colors to CMYK. 4 color design.
The right image is a digital photo of the printed shirt.
The camera didn't get the contrast quite right but as you can see, the print is pretty close. There's some dot gain on the side of the cart & it's slightly darker. Anyone who's done t-shirt printing will tell you it's more an art to getting it right. There is & always will be things to learn in this field. No matter how many adjustments I make, shirts always print darker than I expect. 10% shading can get as dark as 25-35% depending on squeegie pressure or speed & the mesh/dot size that's used.
Overall I am 90% happy with the how it turned out. The customer was more than happy & very appreciative, which makes it all worth while in the end. As long as they are happy eh?
Thanks everyone for the assistance! Also a thankyou to MikeS for the image posting Photobucket tip. Works great!
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Looks great! Your welcome about the tip but really need to thank Maya (Crowhaven)thats where i found out about it.
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Thanks for passing it on Mike.S & to Crowhaven for letting us know!
