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I find it sad that most of the time the number of active users in TG is in the single handful, yet there are many more "Guests".
Present hit is 4 members to 745 guests.

Yes if you login, we know who you are and possibly where - https://www.talkgraphics.com/online.php.
So what?
TG does not exploit any of this.

We all want to know our Threads and Posts are being read and not just by Bots.
It would also be useful if Xara staff lead by example, especially so Mods can nudge Xara to look at Bugs raised in the Dear Xara Forum and not rely on the subsequent excuse "Oh, were were busy on other things."

Finally, if you are logged in, it takes no time to add to a Thread.
We welcome discourse and questions, the whole purpose of the Forums.

Do join in.
We don't bite.
Well, we do but tell us off otherwise we'll think we know everything.
We need to understand how you use the Xara products and what is hard or even impossible for you. Someone else may have an answer.

Thank you for reading.
Enjoy the range of knowledge TG offers but think of contributing too even if you are just browsing when logged in.

Down to 2 and 755 guests and one of us is a Bot!

Acorn

Thank you Acorn.

iT ALWAYS PUZZLED ME WHEN tg REPORTED:

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Present hit is 4 members to 745 guests

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... or similar. How many of these 745 are real Peeps and how many are Bots?
Reminds me of the Matrix ......

PS Sorry about the Caps Lock, I'm not shouting.

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Originally Posted by Egg Bramhill

iT ALWAYS PUZZLED ME WHEN tg REPORTED:

... or similar. How many of these 745 are real Peeps and how many are Bots?
Reminds me of the Matrix ......

PS Sorry about the Caps Lock, I'm not shouting.

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Lots. https://www.talkgraphics.com/online.php allows a click on the IP address and it is resolved, so 17.121.115.49 shows as 17-121-115-49.applebot.apple.com. Within its renage, Apple could have 65,000 scouring the web and probably many, many more.

Login and beat the Bots.

Acorn

Yes but if I click the 'Search Bots' it only reports 15 Guests. If I select Guests it reports 643. If I select Members it reports 6.

Are 643 Peeps viewing TG at that time?

Surely that bot must be reporting wrong I believe we have many more members than 6, although many are not active.

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Originally Posted by Egg Bramhill

Yes but if I click the 'Search Bots' it only reports 15 Guests. If I select Guests it reports 643. If I select Members it reports 6.
Are 643 Peeps viewing TG at that time?

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It would appear so.

Acorn

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Originally Posted by wizard509

Surely that bot must be reporting wrong I believe we have many more members than 6, although many are not active.

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Larry, it is a count of those on-line at the time you viewed the page.

Bottom of the home page shows:

There are currently 711 users online. 9 members and 702 guests
Most users ever online was 10,257, 24 January 2016 at 12:24 AM.

https://www.talkgraphics.com/images/...orum_stats.pngSpam-O-Matic Statistics

337782 Spammers Denied Registration
1031 Spammers Permanently Banned
1187 Spammers submitted to StopForumSpam
1244 Spammers submitted to Akismet
2549 Spammy Posts Automatically Moderated

https://www.talkgraphics.com/images/...orum_stats.pngTalkGraphics.com Statistics

Threads 76,840 Posts 620,485 Members 33,120
Welcome to our newest member, pparamo


I want the 33,000+ Members to show their faces.
Please.

Acorn

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Originally Posted by Acorn

I want the 33,000+ Members to show their faces.
Please.

Acorn

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Me too, I wonder what if anything can be done to help bring TG back to its former glory, few participate in the Scribble challenges, few draw anything(including me) to show the capabilities of Xara.
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On some forums I think there is a way to show just active members. For example, ones that have logged in at least once within the last six or twelve months. That would give a more realistic idea of what’s going on.

A similar question about forum participation came up in 2018.
https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...ra-Web-Gallery

I would generally not login unless it was required to make a post. I guess I'm not alone in that behaviour.

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Originally Posted by pauland

I would generally not login unless it was required to make a post. I guess I'm not alone in that behaviour.

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Fully understand. Log in and you can see your PMs. Log in and what catches people's interest is better identified as it is not just a visit count. Log in and you can Subscribe to Threads of interest. Log in and show the Community is not terminal.

Acorn

Acorn I just said what I have been doing. From my perspective that worked well and there's so little traffic on TG that the daily posts view is fine.

From the perspective of community management I entirely get it that my browsing behaviour isn't helpful. It's not something I'd considered.

I'm not sure you can necessarily shift people's behaviour much because there is so little traffic and most of the TG posts tend to relate to the shortcomings of Magix and the latest release.

I ceased to be a real Xara user some time back but I like the community.

I think the real issue with TG is not whether people log in or not but that the emphasis of the community has moved from having a buzz about new releases and functionality (because new releases are paper-thin in terms of new capability), and it seems that the problems with the lack of software innovation and direction has led to a collapse of posts from the creative side.

TG's community has grown old and stale as have the developers of the software. No good flinging stones about it because in some ways it's about the natural lifecycle of products.

I think creatives have mostly migrated to other software than is more receptive to their interests and TG has mostly moved towards being a support group for people making websites.

There would be a lot more reason to login if there was something to login for.

The community has been somewhat let down by Xara and Magix because they are essentially running the businesses like it's 1990 while other vendors are stimulating their user communities and nurturing them via competitions, promotions, informative videos, posting and books even - definitely strong social media promotion and advertising. Xara and Magix has let the user community wither away.

I have a favourite program I use for graphics work for UIs and it's not that old but it has suffered because while it hasn't evolved other competitors have emerged and evolved more quickly. I stick with it because it works well for me and I only update when I get a great offer. I can tell that the company is struggling a bit because their social media group is starting to get thin and they've offered monthly subscriptions and users are using competitor software now.

Anyway, I digress I suppose.

Analysing thread subjects and posting trends should give the real picture. TG is now mostly a tech-support group for Magix/Xara.

that's a good summation Paul

xara/magix direct users here for help; a free help forum is how they see us ....

web and cloud are now the focus; web and cloud get discussed on social media without any input here necessarily

Generally, I don't use Xara for anything other than my own pleasure, and I'm not a very good artist.

However, I'm permanently logged in, even if only browsing. I really like the community even if I don't really have anything constructive to add.

What is the author's main criticism of the TalkGraphics community? I would be very happy if you could let me know, thanks. I know this is an old discussion but the answer to my question is very important I am appealing to the admin. Please approve my post, Thanks

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Originally Posted by kukuaj3

I am appealing to the admin

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unlikely if you are spam

your post says you are in mexico - also unlikely

you have no xara software

OP is clear enough to me.....

kukuaj3 - Why does your location show Mexico and your IP shows Kolkata, India? Help me here.

And what can we help you with?