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Looks interesting.
The obvious question is: Will Xara 5.0 have all the Xare Web Designer functionality???
Guilty as charged.
Steve L. - You link should go to the home page.
I have not heard a peep about Xtreme 5 except that it is in development.
I would expect to find some things like Spell Check included but it makes more sense to have the web site specific features in Web Designer.
Corrected Gary.
Tried to get the free trial by clicking the download link on the home page of your preview but just got the log in page and them the account admin page. Probably me, but can you help please :o
John Xara Web Designer will be available from the middle of next week - 1st week of March.
Ah, thanks Steve. Thought the trial might be for now. Looks like it'll be worth the wait though :)
I hope that xara will keep all of the web designer functions, or most of it out of Xtreme. Something like the spell checker would be good in xtreme. But I think the web designer would be best as a stand alone product. Gary's work books are great and very helpful and I had a quick look. And I am sure it will be helpful for those interested in this product.
I think it's almost certain that all of WD's functionality will be in Xara 5. Xara 4 has website export and they're not going to omit genuine improvements they've done for the next version. Secondly, WD is primarily an editable template based website making package; for those who want to develop a website from scratch with advanced graphical content, then Xara is better to be used. I'm 99.9% certain Xara 5 will include all the improvements in WD, just from a logical approach.Quote:
Originally Posted by StevenWWinters
I agree with that. The inclusion of web export was the best inclusion in XX4 and I'm looking forward to improvements in the hoped for release of XX5.
If Xtreme 5 is going to have all the functions of Webdesigner why have Webdesigner at all? What I would like to see Xtreme 5 have from designer is the spell checker and the master pages with repeatable objects.
I would guess because WD is aimed at a different target audience. It is a simple to use, streamlined package whose sole purpose is to make websites and that's it. Xara has lots of other bells and whistles that would be considered bloat for someone only intending to make a website, and then Xara would be accused of making bloatware. WD is also very template-orientated from the looks of things and pre-packaged for ease of website creation. But you can also edit these templates it seems and even design sites from scratch according to the documentation.Quote:
Originally Posted by angelize
Frances
I would imagine that as they've been implemented in WD then the next release of XX will include them as well.Quote:
What I would like to see Xtreme 5 have from designer is the spell checker and the master pages with repeatable objects.
I'm sorry, but I somehow do not understand this, I have only recently (late December 2008) my version purchased in a number of things such as the Navbar or export filters for HTML (Page background) are defective and more others (see the Buglist).
Now these bugs seem fixed, even adding a bit and then again as a new product. I'm sorry, but a spell checker should be used for a "desktop publishing" professional product standard and should be still and silent when an update may be annexed. My last Update has a Stand from May 2008, a long long time, Xara Ltd. fixed no bugs, she's develop new other versions with functionality with would do in my version, but she doesn't work!....:mad:
I wait for the next Version, a User in the Magix-Supportforum has me tell, that Magix-Grafik & Foto Designer 3 will come at Juni 2009. Probably just a marketing strategy, yet the web designer and then sell XXP 5.0 or graphic photo .. Out a 3.0, again with little changes, and of course the capabilities of Web designers, or even this.
Look the Productlist from Magix.de, there are already a Website-Maker, a 3D-maker and so on ..., probably outsourced software modules, which you put fast ne surface still missed, and then marketed as a new product?!
I have payed for the Pro 3.2 Version and for Grafik & Foto Designer 2, i use VDL, FACUD and Webradio from Magix. VDL since Version 6 and payed many Updates btw. new Versions. I can say, i am a good customer, but the new strategy of Magix I do not think good.:(
My opinion!
Greetings
CMONE
Hi Frances,
Xara Web Designer is the new product replacing Xara Webstyle.
Webstyle was marketed for web design without needing to also be a graphic designer. The professionally designed templates allowed anyone to create a good looking website quickly and easily.
Web Designer will take over that roll in the Xara applications.
The beauty of Web Designer is the program does allow the use of Xtreme 4.0 website .xar files. Webstyle required specially crafted files for the templates.
For years the Webstyle users have requested the ability to make their own templates or availability of additional template packages. Web Designer's ability to work with Xtreme created designs opens up access to an unlimited supply of templates.
Xtreme, Xtreme Pro, and Web Designer offer excellent design programs for a wider audience.
What I'm wondering is whether it would be better for those of us who want/need the extra features that Xtreme/pro has to wait for version 5? Although I must say that Designer is certainly well priced.:)
If you can't wait for XXP5, then get Designer now. Who knows when XXP5 will be out? Meanwhile if you buy Designer now for $29 (for XXP4 users) you could get several months use out of Designer now.Quote:
Originally Posted by angelize
Very good question Frances.
Would a user of Xtreme or Xtreme Pro need Web Designer? Especially if a future release of Xtreme and Pro include these new features.
One point I would make is if you were to design a template for use within Web Designer. Would it not be best to test it within Web Designer?
I would expect many Webstyle users to upgrade to Web Designer.
1. Newer program that conforms to newer W3C standards. Webstyle was released in 2004. A lifetime ago in digital technology. :D
2. Ability to modify and create templates.
3. Very reasonable price for the upgrade.
Creation and sales of custom templates for use within Web Desiger could become popular. It was not possible to create templates for Webstyle without proprietary tools only available in house at Xara Group Ltd.
Now anyone with Xtreme 4.0 and Xtreme Pro 4.0 can create templates for Web Designer.
I've been using Xara for my web graphics for years now and was SO happy when the Web Export feature came to XX4.
I WILL be buying WD and if they come out with XX5 and it has anything new I can't live without AND has WD features - I will buy it.
I believe if you added every version of Xara I've ever had, INCLUDING My original CorelXara, which I got with the entire Corel suite back in the last century, I STILL wouldn't have paid as much as a SINGLE copy of Photoshop or Illustrator or Dreamweaver.
Xara has always offered the best and easiest product with the most fair upgrade policy I've ever seen.
Thank You!
I have decided that I am going to buy Web Designer. I am already planning a major overhaul of my website.:D
I have purchased Xara Menu Maker but could not use it on Coffee Cup Visual Site Designer.Quote:
Originally Posted by sledger
Can I use it on Xara Web Designer?
Xara Web Designer is much more than a Menu Maker or navigation bar creator. XWD has been designed to create complete websites without the need to use any other WYSIWYG Web design software.
Please see Webdesigner at Xara.com
Thankyou for such a prompt and efficient reply. I will likely buy the product when it becomes available.
I do not understand why, when it's the American economy that went so belly up, our Aussie dollar went so down. It will cost me around A$75.
Because you replied so quickly, I have more time to evaluate the product's facilities.
Thanks again.
Peter
Hobart
Tasmania
Welcome to the Web Designer Forum Peter.
None us except the Xara product design group, know what will be in Xtreme 5. All of the moderators are volunteers who are not employed by Xara.
But it would make sense that Xtreme 5 will for sure have spell checking, and the ability to double click on an object to switch to the appropriate tool.
This is one of the most innovative features in Web Designer. If you double click on text, the selector tool becomes the text tool. Double click on a path and the Shape Editor Tool is enabled. Double click on: a photo you get the photo tool, a rectangle, you get the rectangle tool.
This is of the magnitude of Xara's interactive graident fills and transparency. No need to remember what that blasted keyboard shortcut is, just double click on something and see what happens.
But logic would also indicate that with all the web-based tools in Web Designer, Xtreme 5 will get back to the basics of drawing and image manipulation. Spell check will enhance the current desktop publishing features. And I would look for more improvement in the Extrude Tool. more goodies in the Live Effects Tool and more consistent user interfaces, and more improvements along these lines. And the Xara development people always seem to pay attention to the wish lists. So who knows, maybe some improvements in the drawing tools.
It would be great if the bitmap tracer were improved along the lines of Vector Magic, but my guess is it will remain the same. But you never know.
But as far as website development? It makes more sense to leave those improvements to Web Designer. Xtreme and Web Designer work very well together without getting in the way of one another.
Just my dos centavos, Nuevo Mexiconos. :D
Thankyou Gary,
Having bought Xara Menu Maker last year, but ever since unable to use it, I'd naturally like to use it in full when I purchase Web Designer.
Can someone tell me how I could do this?
Peter
Tasmania
Australia
Yes. Menus created with MenuMaker can be embedded within WD documents. This was tested and proved compatible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pebrite
Hi John,Quote:
Originally Posted by covoxer
does this also mean that navbars created with Webstyle can be used in Web Designer, or only the MM ones?
BTW, I love what I've seen/read sofar about Web Designer. And a smart decision to make it compatible with Xtreme's file format. And boy, what a bargain.
Great job, guys! Now let's try to convince the rest of the world. Keep up the good work.
Albert
Peter - I'm sorry if my answer was confusing.
I was welcoming you to the conference and answering Frances' question from the previous page. :o
Sorry.
Thankyou Gary,Quote:
Originally Posted by gwpriester
I was puzzled, yes - as you can imagine! Thanks for the explanation.
I appreciate your welcome to a quality forum with quality people.
I feel at home.
Peter Bright
Tasmania
Australia
Albert the answer is yes. You can also use Webstyle menus the same as MenuMaker menus.
Also check out the new manual:D
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dczbrfsq_116g7259dqt
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Originally Posted by covoxer
John how would you embed the MenuMaker menu? I assume that you can also embed Webstyle menus, is that correct?
Thanks for any information you can provide.
Yes. MenuMaker and Webstyle generate similar menus.
When you export menu from any of these programs, you are given an example html file. It contains something like this:
<script src="xaramenu.js"></script><script Webstyle4 src="links.js"></script>
To use it within WD design, you have to copy both "xaramenu.js" and "links.js" files (may have different names), as well as all graphics files rendered by the Webstyle/MenuMaker into the folder that contains your exported page html files. Then you simply insert this html code into the placeholder object.
It has to look like this:
Thanks John.
I thought that is how it was done.
A test page using a single page from a Web Designer template and a Webstyle created navbar. http://btaylor.50megs.com/WD_test/WS_WD.htm