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I wish to export and save the label (attached) as a jpeg or png image at 300dpi.
It needs to be 300dpi as needs to be printed. However, when I Export Jpeg or PNG and change the resolution to 300dpi, the label size increases to 1621px X 585px
How do I export it at 300pdi so that the label saved remains the same size as the original .xar file?
Thanks
you are misunderstanding the way the UI and export work
the reason that it changes to 1621 is because 1621pix divided by 300 [for 300dpi] is 5.4inches is 137.24mm which should be correct bearing in mind that when I opened it in xara the 'actual' size was 137.2mm [to one decimal place]
note: if you want real accuracy, make sure your work is in whole pixels/units, and/or you set your UI decimal points to several places [this needs to be done in windows operating system]
Ok but how do I export the label and save it as the same size at 300dpi?
I have attached 2 saved images. The 1st one is saved as 96dpi and is the correct size after export.
The 2nd is saved as 300dpi but much bigger.Attachment 94256Attachment 94257
The 96dpi is no good for printing (it has to be imported by another program before printing).
can I just clarify - you want it to print at 137mm wide at 300dpi - right?
if that is the case then your exported image needs to be 1618 pixels wide - if you have made it exactly 127mm wide in xara, and you export at 300dpi, this should be the pixel width of your image after you export it - are you saying that is no what you are getting?
Ok, i have changed the label in the xara file to pixels from mm to keep things standard.
The label size is now 500px wide by 180px high.
I now wish to Export as JPG and keep these same dimensions but the final jped file must be high quality 300dpi.
However, when I export it, the jpeg size changes to 1565px X 564px when trying to save as 300dpi
ok - but the 500 pix is at 96 dpi - 500 divided by 96 is 5.20833.. - 5.208333.. multiplied by 300 is 1562.5 - close to the 1565 result you have, not spot on though so can you upload that file?
if you meanwhile export at 300 dpi and then import the result into a new xar file what size does it comes in at? [note the status bar at the bottom should report it at 300dpi]
When I import the 300dpi jpeg, it is imported at the correct size (300dpi on the toolbar).
I see what you are explaining - must be an issue with the other software import feature as the label is only the correct size at 96dpi
Thanks...
ok - in absolute terms, the size of a computer image can only be defined by the number of pixels wide and high - dividing this by a 'dpi' to achieve a 'print size' is just a 'convention' - different programs handle this in different ways
glad to help - good luck :)
PS - what is the other software?
Its bespoke software that imports the images and lines them up for printing on label paper.
Will have to find a workaround.
ok - I only asked in case it was a familiar one to someone here...
JPEG is not the best format for text or sharp images, it's a photo format, PNG would be better - are there any other format options?
it's possible that the internal information is being interpreted differently in the two programs
What is important is the pixel dimension.
Your computer monitor is 96dpi screen resolution. This is 96 pixels to an inch.
I create images that are 960 x 768. When I export these images at 300dpi the image size changes to 3000 x 2400. This translates into a 10 x 8" image at 300dpi.
It is more than a little confusing, but as I say, the pixel dimensions are what counts.
And, for print work I would not use JPEG. I prefer 24-bit PNG or 24-bit TIFF. Or better still, if your printer can work with it, a PDF/X document.
Your label group seems larger than it should be but the export size I get at 300dpi is 3265 x 2292 pixels.
Here's a PDF/X file of your label. Most good printers should be able to work with this.
Hi & thanks.
I normally print off labels after generating high quality pdf from xara but due to the nature of our business, need to generate the 300dpi images of each label for bespoke software to use in order to print these labels.
Anyway, I have sorted it out now by having the software import the labels and reduce them in size.
glad to hear you got a solution :)
Hi again,Quote:
Originally Posted by gwpriester
I am having a problem with maintaining the colour of the blocks on the label after saving the file as an image file (jpg / png) and printing printing it. The colour becomes darker and greener.
Any ideas please.
Thanks
Without looking at your file, I imagine what is happening is you are comparing screen display to actual printed image.
Xara's default color space is RGB, which is brighter and more saturated than CMYK or most printers can replicate. This bright greens print deeper, cyan prints more like peacock blue, purple becomes duller and more blue, and other shifts.
This is color space reality.
Some ink jet printers, especially those using 6 or more colors, can do a better job capturing the wider range of colors that you see on the screen. But any four color CMYK printer just cannot print the intensity, brightness, and saturation that you see on the screen.
To give yourself a better idea how your printed output will appear, switch to Simulated Printer Colors (Window > Show Printer Colors > Simulate Print Colors). This will give you a more realistic idea how your printed colors are going to look.
Gary is right.
You might be tempted to think this is something to do with the way Xara handles graphics, but the issue of colour spaces and RGB colours (screen) versus CMYK colours (print) is present in all graphics software, not just Xara. In Photoshop or Illustrator you'd have to choose what colour space you want too.
I have clients that frequently provide me with print graphics in CMYK format and I warn them about colour shifts on screen - the reverse of your problem.
Hi,
If I export the .xar file as a high quality pdf file and print it, the colour is what I require.
However, if I save the .xar file as an image, import the images back into xara, I can see the changes.
What is the best colour format to use so that the screen matches the printed version as closely as possible - rgb, cmyk or hsv?
Thanks
CMYK and then be sure to enable Window>>Show Print colors>>Simulate print colors
But remember this is never going to be 100% accurate as CMYK is the colour of ink whereas your screen is RGB, the colour of light.
I'm not sure why you want to import the images back into Xara. When you create a PDF document, yes you can open and edit it in Xara, but this should not be necessary.
When you create a high quality PDF, you are converting your RGB colors to CMYK which is best for printing or sharing with clients or others.
But you should not try to bring the CMYK images back into Xara. They will look different. Your original images should remain unchanged. Then should you need to edit the document, do this in the Xara document you created and export a new PDF file for printing.
its not that simpleQuote:
Originally Posted by drslim2
you can define cmyk colours for print in xara by using cmyk colour model - but what you see on the screen will always be rgb - as sledger says you can get an approximation by using simulate print colours
also the variation is non-uniform across the colour spectrum
Thanks for the info.
To cut a long story short as to why I am converting to images first ... we make up all product labels for many customers in xara. We used to then set up to print 8 labels per A4 page and exporting as a high res pdf file from xara.
However, as some customers want 3 labels of 1 product, 10 of another etc, we had bespoke software built that imports X number of images from different folders, automatically sets them up on the A4 page, exports as a high res pdf file which is then ready for printing.
I have not had many problems with changes in colour, just this one file.