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Xara online designer, omg
Had a go at xara online designer and let me tell you something, who on earth wants to work with that? I really do not understand the amount of man power and work that goes into it being fully utilized by anyone. Imagine they could be putting that effort into bringing new updates out. I am still waiting for a half descent update to xpro. Just not happy lately, I hope they do not dump xara web designer production in favour of doing it all online. >:)
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behzad
Had a go at xara online designer and let me tell you something, who on earth wants to work with that? I really do not understand the amount of man power and work that goes into it being fully utilized by anyone. Imagine they could be putting that effort into bringing new updates out. I am still waiting for a half descent update to xpro. Just not happy lately, I hope they do not dump xara web designer production in favour of doing it all online. >:)
Those on Web Designer are at a version released on 25 April, though Pro is only three months fallow.
Acorn
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been 'fallow' a bit longer than three months on the drawing side.... :D
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Hi behzad,
Perhaps you could tell us what you didn't like about the online designer? What would you improve or what are your first impressions?
We're not dumping our desktop programs or planning to, and whilst a lot of focus has been on the online designer we are still developing new features for all our current programs. That being said, whilst it is in the middle of a lot of development of the Online Designer and now would be the perfect time to let us know your thoughts on what could be added to make it something you would consider using :)
Kind Regards
Rob
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Thanks for this quick update, Rob. It's reassuring to know that Xara is not in the process of phasing out the desktop apps because to me it sure looked like it.
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Hi cmpan1,
Sorry what do you mean by 'here's why...'? Here's why what?
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Rob-Xar
Hi cmpan1,
Sorry what do you mean by 'here's why...'? Here's why what?
Rob... let me preface my answer by saying... I am a fairly long-time user... and I obviously love this software. It does for me what NO OTHER software can... OK....
I'm not a fan of of all these online website builders... IMO that lack the freedom the Xara Desktop offers... (understatement) And I can see the Xara online potentially
can, and IS taking this to a different, and better level. I understand that the ability for a shared back-end allowing others and customers to go in and make some changes is important.
So I'm not against this, and would find a need for it myself down the line. I DO want this feature. But... But...
Xara desktop is my MAIN go-to for all and every type of work.... I just become so frustrated when I get these exciting notifications from Xara about some great additions and upgrades to....
and then it reads... XARA online designer. And my immediate reaction is... "damn!"
Now don't get me wrong... I get it. I get the dev on Online Designer. But do YOU understand me? It's an emotional thing. I see the update notification, get that little anticipation tingle thinking
ok, my Xara is gettin' something new, and again, again, again, it's ONLINE DESIGNER.
So, it appears to me that Xara is focusing more on the Online rather than Desktop.... I could be wrong, but just look at the ratio of notices of Online updates to Desktop updates. The online ones
are/seem significant as opposed to the rare Desktop ones.
This.... is why I say "here's why"... it's because I get the impression that this is where Xara's focus is going.... (I think I rambled a too long answer to your question :-/)
Thanks for the interest Rob.
Cliff
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You are correct in saying that the Online Designer is getting more focus than the desktop version, but as mentioned before we're not dumping the desktop versions either.
The Online Designer however hasn't been created with website building in view (and has very limited web capabilities). If anything it's more targeted towards business use - i.e. letterheads, presentation, company social media but this isn't fixed.
I've spent a while talking to our CEO Matt about this and in the end we want to create something that you not only can use but also want to use. One of my (ever increasing lol) roles is gathering this requirement from our customers and getting their feedback. If the majority of our users want a tool for creating websites then we'll work more on those features. If they want more features pertaining to print and publishing then we'll work on that.
If you can let me know what sort of things you create in the desktop version and if you have used the Online Designer, what sort of features you would say are a must have I can forward this feedback straight back to the top and say 'Hey this is what are users want, can we implement something'? It does get discussed how we can do this regularly so all feedback is welcome :)
Thanks
Rob
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Thanks for clarifying a few things Rob...
Regarding a feature list for print, many users have expressed their desires already ie master pages etc... and others.
Gotta run now for the day, but will be happy to respond this evening with a similar to others...
But in the meantime, I'll bet that a handful of others can easily express exactly what they would like to see implemented regarding print/page design & layout. I hope they see this and respond.
Thank you
Cliff
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Rob-Xar
You are correct in saying that the Online Designer is getting more focus than the desktop version, but as mentioned before we're not dumping the desktop versions either.
The Online Designer however hasn't been created with website building in view (and has very limited web capabilities). If anything it's more targeted towards business use - i.e. letterheads, presentation, company social media but this isn't fixed.
I've spent a while talking to our CEO Matt about this and in the end we want to create something that you not only can use but also want to use. One of my (ever increasing lol) roles is gathering this requirement from our customers and getting their feedback. If the majority of our users want a tool for creating websites then we'll work more on those features. If they want more features pertaining to print and publishing then we'll work on that.
If you can let me know what sort of things you create in the desktop version and if you have used the Online Designer, what sort of features you would say are a must have I can forward this feedback straight back to the top and say 'Hey this is what are users want, can we implement something'? It does get discussed how we can do this regularly so all feedback is welcome :)
Thanks
Rob
OK, Rob. How about this...
I don't want an Online Designer. At all. I want efforts pushed into XDP downward into the other applications (of which there are too many).
But. But the decision was made to pursue the Online Designer and now we're all stuck with development efforts (which are stretched too thin) going into that beast. And while XDP had already been falling behind on development on many/several fronts in comparison to the competition, it is only going to slide further back.
Cannot Xara/Magix make up its mind as to what Xara will be when it grows up and pursue that?
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Hi Rob, thank you for writing back.
I work with many clients and they are busy with running their business and do not have the time to learn or want to update their websites. Personally I do not see it helpful for what I do, not sure about other designers who also run a business. I believe the online designer is not for hobbyist but more so geared for clients doing their own updates. Also giving that much flexibility to the client to move and change the design will make me very nervous, so again I avoid clients that want to do their own updates. Again I focus on time and manpower that it takes to learn the online designer on from the clients perspective which seems to be asking too much.
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Also the lack of meaning full updates now almost one year for webdesigner pro worries me. If Xara kept our hunger for updates happy then we would not be worried. I run a business and need to stay current to what is new and what the client demands. I believe now that business owners like myself are few in your subscribers database?
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Unfortunately I can't control where development time is invested, nor what's included in the updates or their frequency but I can understand your frustration in the recent updates. Don't get me wrong, it's something us in support has often criticised as well but ultimately that's all we can do and forward your comments onto management and those who make the decisions :)
BUT I can provide some influence to the Online Designer in trying to get implemented what you want that would make you use it. I get that some people like you mwenz would rather have development purely focused on the desktop version and I know your not alone in that aspect but as before that's nothing I have any control over unfortunately.
I believe there is something in the pipeline to allow you to lock certain objects from being edited when passed to clients so they can only fill out content and not mess with the layout. If there is something that you would absolutely use then please let me know and we can definitely look at it. This isn't limited to a particular area either, literally anything :)
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Hi Rob--yes, I know. And those who do make decisions have, well, made them. It's hard to turn a ship around (even if it is headed for an iceberg...).
To be honest, I would actually need to create an account, log-in and have some good, solid play with it to offer anything of (even marginal) value. If I really retire early next year (doubtful) then pursuing such an endeavor might be of use to Xara. And, I would have to get my brain around helping a thing I see no to little advantage in real-world use. At least as regards my little world.
If Online Designer is really made more for the design-side of things (as opposed to Web per se), then I would also need to go out and find new clients that would want to make such changes. Design, layout, etc., is what they hire me for. That includes updates and changes. I am also not the type of Xara customer that can even use XDP for most of what I do...which is really to create assets that in turn get put into a layout application.
One of the few clients I kept past my heart issues a few years ago is a governmental agency that has three letters for their name. Does Xara think that Online Designer is something they would make use of? Or how about another client I retained? They are a multi-national drug manufacturer. See? For me to collaborate with clients, I would have to find clients that are, well, cheapskates.
All that said, I would be willing to take a casual look if I can figure out what I need to do to get access and play. It will be a few weekends from now in all likelihood and may not really provide you with meaningful, actionable comments/suggestions.
Mike
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Hi Rob,
I'm a graphic designer from Germany and use XDP for the general use to design print and web. My focus is more to print. Tha fact that XDP needs a prof. color managemet is only on a desktop realizable. I work with calibrated stuff, the only one who false is Xara.
I either don't wnt and need an online solution.
Since I work with Xara I wait for things like color management, mor drawing futures, master pages, a better style management and so on …
Since years is the wishlist every year the same. Xara don't respond questions where does the way of XDP go.
Fortunately I am not dependent on xara because I use for my daily work a bunch of software. And Yes, Adobe is still a part of them. But I wish to see XDP where it must be according to advertising promises: PROFESSIONAL!
PLS see my Portfolio on my website to got an idea for what I use Xara.
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While I think online design appears to be growing, I too prefer the desktop version. I get many calls as well as new clients that I have switched from WordPress, Wix and few others. Everyone of them said the same thing. I decided to create a website myself online, then within an hours have given up ( even quicker with WordPress). I currently use WDP 11 and have been undecided about upgrading to 365. I have no problem with a yearly subscription, but after reading many post, it appears the updates and features added to 365 are slowing down in frequency.
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KoKo well said, l love you :)
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Rob-Xar
If you can let me know what sort of things you create in the desktop version and if you have used the Online Designer, what sort of features
you would say are a must have I can forward this feedback straight back to the top and say 'Hey this is what are users want, can we implement
something'? It does get discussed how we can do this regularly so all feedback is welcome :)
Rob, any browser based software (really absolutely any – from Web-Development to CAD) performs poor for power users due to lack of hotkeys.
Some tools give you a very basic set of shortcuts, but they are way too few for serious work. The same is true for contextual menus. Users are
forced to a purely visual workflow, which is notoriously slow.
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OK I tried the online designer, and I must say it is very nice. I made a few changes to the temp page it offered and it operates pretty smooth. It only allowed me to preview a finished website and not actually publish it with its own domain. I also didn't encounter the pop up error codes I sometimes get with the desktop version.
Questions: 1. When its out of beta, will I be able to download the web files to save on my pc and/or cloud storage of my choice?
2. Will it publish to any hosting account I choose?
3. Will slideshows be offered?
4. What kind of pricing will it be?
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Sorry for the delay, a little rushed. Always hectic here lol
mwenz - So far it has been more design focused than Web focused, with more of a direction towards say small / medium businesses, but this is very much not fixed at all. Understandably it won't be suitable for everyone and I know with the work you do, you might not need or use the majority of the features there. However even if there is a small nugget which you can say that it really helps you we'll take it and work on it. And it could be anything, even if say for example you just want a platform where clients can view (but not edit) your work and perhaps markup what they like / dislike, approve / disapprove etc... whatever would make your life easier.
This probably applies to you too Ernie, unfortunately I can't stop development on the Online Designer and get all the developers to focus on the desktop products :) but I can take feedback up to those where decisions are made and perhaps steer it in a direction where you could use it. Matt who I mentioned before is somewhat open to idea's and suggestions and will read everything you have to suggest.
Hoja - There is already keyboard shortcuts implemented and new features generally get assigned one :) http://content.ixara.com/shortcuts/
Koko - Many thanks for your feedback :) in answer to your questions
1) I believe there is plans to allow you to save (and upload) from your local drive, but I can try to push that requirement harder
2) Currently it will only publish to the FTP information saved within the document however I think again there is plans to allow it to publish wherever you want.
3) Yes, there currently is a set of presentations already within the templates.
4) This is still being decided but what would you say is a reasonable deal? Perhaps a free version that allows basic editing and then (pulling a figure out of the air) 9.99 a month for the full thing? Or free up until a certain number of designs is made and then a charge after?
Please let me know what you love and we'll polish it up, and what you hate and we'll change it :)
Thanks
Rob
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Rob-Xar
The Online Designer however hasn't been created with website building in view (and has very limited web capabilities). If anything it's more targeted towards business use - i.e. letterheads, presentation, company social media but this isn't fixed.
Xara's sales (http://www.xara.com/uk/expiring/web-designer-premium/):
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Another year of guaranteed access to Xara Online Designer, with its liberating ability to edit and re-publish your websites remotely from any device including Macs, iPads, Chromebooks and Android tablets, and collaborate on sites with colleagues and clients
Reconcile.
For some my clients, it is of no value within an Intranet so my use is cursory.
Acorn
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I have been checking out the online designer and I can see it being useful to provide sections or areas of a website that are client editable by creating a second small webpage and implementing it into the main site via the iframe widget. One example of this could be a restaurant site with a menu board. the menu board would be the separate site and that is what you give your client access to. The main site would still be under your control and protected.
Another use I can see for it is as a mobile tool that you can access on a tablet and take to client meetings. documents could be updated in real time as ideas are discussed.
It is also a good preview tool to allow a client to preview a document or a site.
As far as possible things I'd like to see in the future One would be more vector drawing tools something like this https://vectr.com/ Another would be photo filters They can easily be created in the desktop versions of DP and P&GD it would be nice to be able to drop them onto a photo in Online designer.
The font styles that are in OD are a nice touch but you could take that further and let users create their own style libraries that could be added to a document by drag and drop. For example say I'm designing a document for a client and I want to give them a choice between two sets of fonts that work well together and suit their business I'd like to be able to include them somehow in the document so when loaded in OD the client could tryout each combination and decide which one they like best.
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Rob-Xar
Sorry for the delay, a little rushed. Always hectic here lol
This probably applies to you too Ernie, unfortunately I can't stop development on the Online Designer and get all the developers to focus on the desktop products :) but I can take feedback up to those where decisions are made and perhaps steer it in a direction where you could use it. Matt who I mentioned before is somewhat open to idea's and suggestions and will read everything you have to suggest.
Rob
You Welcomme!
But I'dont trust Magix! I like a open converation in all. But German Company Magix is in the knees. So Magix say what is about XDP? Can we User count on it or may we leave?
PLS give us an answer what is about XDP-Desktop. Can we count on an offer to beat Affinity or maybe AI? Is this possible? Or our goals to the WEB-Thing.
It's a shame to got a such a thing like xara to end in compromise with a German Company who advertise in the 1990ies Amiga-Computers. And now???
PLS Xara if You can, go away from Magix. Find Your roots. Do things for the poeole who byu and use Your SOFTWARE.
Ernie from Germany!
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Actually. I really like the idea of Online designer for web design. I have done some wordpress sites for clients and it is too complex for some of them. A xara solution where I can design without limits and allow them access to certain areas to update text or galleries is a good thing.
XDP is my swiss army vector tool but without proper cmyk handling it is rubbish for anything to do with print. Web or ebooks would be another matter entirely. With that in mind I personally think that using Online Designer for print work would be pretty limited.
So. Yes. I want to use Online Designer for web work :-)
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Acorn - Unfortunately that's Marketing for you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I think the website will be updated soon however.
Angelize - Photo filters are coming to the Online Designer soon :) and (still early in development) you should be able to hover over the filters and colours to preview what it will look like. Better font controls is something that has been asked for multiple times and will be added soon hopefully. But I like your idea of producing multiple sets of text styles to to show your customers and pick from one.
I do like a lot of the tools from vectr, being very simple to use and think it's something our designers have seen before as well. If there's a lot of demand for more vector tools we'll certainly look into adding more!
Ernie - Magix don't have any control over the Online Designer :) this is entirely our baby and not being designed to any Magix specification but rather what to what the users want. It won't ask you to install simpliclean either :P
Thanks
Rob
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I do like a lot of the tools from vectr, being very simple to use and think it's something our designers have seen before as well. If there's a lot of demand for more vector tools we'll certainly look into adding more!
Look closely at add and refine vector tools in XDP. PLEASE!
But if Magix completely controls what and when will be added to the XDP, then no comment. All their products are designed for home use and undemanding users (.
In my heart I will always hope that Xara ever will again become independent.
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Ernie - Magix don't have any control over the Online Designer :) this is entirely our baby and not being designed to any Magix specification but rather what to what the users want. It won't ask you to install simpliclean either :P
Thanks
Rob
Hi Rob,
again I dont want an online Designer! If this is the baby of Xara ok, but I and many others who pay will see the future of XDP-Desktop.
If not I'll not motivate to pay fo online sh...
That will be the END with XARA and ME. I'll never pay for online. I'll pay for a DTP-Version of Xara. If this is in future not possible, so I'll leave XARA. The Future is outhere – but not with XARA.
Maybe You can correct me – if not ???
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How many people asked for an Online Designer over New or Improved Tools in Designer Pro?!
I didn't... And as far as I can tell nobody else did.
Still no regrets for not renewing. Even with the 40% off right now not compelled to get on board again.
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Acorn - Unfortunately that's Marketing for you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I think the website will be updated soon however.
Angelize - Photo filters are coming to the Online Designer soon :) and (still early in development) you should be able to hover over the filters and colours to preview what it will look like. Better font controls is something that has been asked for multiple times and will be added soon hopefully. But I like your idea of producing multiple sets of text styles to to show your customers and pick from one.
I do like a lot of the tools from vectr, being very simple to use and think it's something our designers have seen before as well. If there's a lot of demand for more vector tools we'll certainly look into adding more!
Ernie - Magix don't have any control over the Online Designer :) this is entirely our baby and not being designed to any Magix specification but rather what to what the users want. It won't ask you to install simpliclean either :P
Thanks
Rob
Please do consider adding more vector drawing tools, and things like pixel based painting like this http://site.youidraw.com/ But keep it in one app somewhat like affinity personas. If I'm not mistaken what you are doing is building not an online Designer pro but a whole new piece of software from the ground up so my thoughts are web stuff is popular so an obvious area to explore but there is a core base of vector artists, that I believe would come around if there were tools that interested them. The ability to fill shapes and text with bitmaps, 3D somewhat like extrusions but done in HTML5 and the ability to create and store assets of our own.
Another area is desktop publishing e-books with a flipping page like these GMS Flip Books would be an interesting feature to add to the online designer. To do these books I created my layout in XDP and exported as a pdf (this part could aready be done in OD) then the pdf was uploaded to fliphtml5.com for conversion to a flipping book it would be nice to be able do this all in the OD and export as an HTML5 cross browser all device format
I am going to be looking forward to what the future of the Online Designer will bring, it is after all still in it's infancy.
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Ernie / Dutchim - We're NOT dropping or stopping the development / improvement of Designer Pro. This is an ongoing activity and the developers do go through the dear Xara forums and look at the suggestions posted there. I don't want to sound like a tape recorder stuck on repeat but I don't have any control as to where the development time is spent. Rather, my task to to get feedback / suggestions on the Online Designer and suggest to the developers and management what we can do to improve / change / introduce and otherwise help users to do what they want to do. If you don't want an Online Designer then that's fine and noted! I can go back to management and say X number of users on TalkGraphics don't want the Online Designer, but fact is there's no chance that they are suddenly going to drop the project either. So rather this is to find out what users want: actually you know what it would be nice to have this or that, or what would make my life a heck of a lot easier is this. And one of my jobs is to really push to find that out and pester everyone until it happens :)
Angelize - interestingly we've had someone else who's requested some e-book related features, including importing and exporting such formats so I believe it is being looked into with the developers :) I've found that vector tools is a hard subject to have with a lot of other users, it feels like they don't know what they are missing until you show them an example and suddenly that's a must have! But if for example vector tools or even 3D graphics is in high demand it will get looked into :)
Squeaky - Thanks for your feedback! Currently the majority of existing users do use the Online Designer to edit their websites and the collaboration abilities have been handy and certainly it's an ongoing process to improve that as well :) The Online Designer currently uses the same import / export filters as the desktop version so although it's online, it shouldn't limit us in the ability to produce high quality print work. CMYK colour calibration is something that is highly requested within the desktop version and I admit is somewhat annoying at times so we in support still push for that to be properly implemented as well :) The export values of CMYK that you enter within the Desktop version should be exact on export however (unless your working in RGB and on export converting to CMYK in which results may vary - again an area needing improvement).
Thanks
Rob
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Cheers Rob.
Personally I am excited about Online Designer from a web design point of view. Its pretty limited currently but I look forward to its development (Especially after trying to design sites in Wordpress)
The CMYK is a huge issue for me. It's one of the reasons I have moved to clip studio paint as my main illustration tool.
Exporting vectors for use in Adobe products is a nightmare with regards to colours, I have found to always need tweaking in Illustrator and it is hard to justify that extra time and effort.
It's good to know it's not just me :-)
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Thank you again for communicating so openly, Rob. It's breath of fresh air coming from the Xara offices!
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Ernie / Dutchim - We're NOT dropping or stopping the development / improvement of Designer Pro. This is an ongoing activity and the developers do go through the dear Xara forums and look at the suggestions posted there.
Rob
Hi Rob,
it's good to hear eahm, to read. Thanks for this.
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Rob-Xar
Ernie / Dutchim - We're NOT dropping or stopping the development / improvement of Designer Pro. This is an ongoing activity and the developers do go through the dear Xara forums and look at the suggestions posted there. I don't want to sound like a tape recorder stuck on repeat but I don't have any control as to where the development time is spent. Rather, my task to to get feedback / suggestions on the Online Designer and suggest to the developers and management what we can do to improve / change / introduce and otherwise help users to do what they want to do. If you don't want an Online Designer then that's fine and noted! I can go back to management and say X number of users on TalkGraphics don't want the Online Designer, but fact is there's no chance that they are suddenly going to drop the project either. So rather this is to find out what users want: actually you know what it would be nice to have this or that, or what would make my life a heck of a lot easier is this. And one of my jobs is to really push to find that out and pester everyone until it happens :)
Angelize - interestingly we've had someone else who's requested some e-book related features, including importing and exporting such formats so I believe it is being looked into with the developers :) I've found that vector tools is a hard subject to have with a lot of other users, it feels like they don't know what they are missing until you show them an example and suddenly that's a must have! But if for example vector tools or even 3D graphics is in high demand it will get looked into :)
Squeaky - Thanks for your feedback! Currently the majority of existing users do use the Online Designer to edit their websites and the collaboration abilities have been handy and certainly it's an ongoing process to improve that as well :) The Online Designer currently uses the same import / export filters as the desktop version so although it's online, it shouldn't limit us in the ability to produce high quality print work. CMYK colour calibration is something that is highly requested within the desktop version and I admit is somewhat annoying at times so we in support still push for that to be properly implemented as well :) The export values of CMYK that you enter within the Desktop version should be exact on export however (unless your working in RGB and on export converting to CMYK in which results may vary - again an area needing improvement).
Thanks
Rob
OK Rob.... because of your interaction with this forum and your helpful, informative interaction, you've given me a bit of a boost in confidence and motivation for the future of my Xara!
So, I'm gonna bite again with the upgrade tonight... (because of you!... not their marketing...) and hope that I/we see some significant additions (per user requests) to the desktop version.
And, I also want to throw some $upport Xara's way... it's only right... works two ways, right?
Thanks
Cliff
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Rob I would like just simply thank you that you are asking and answering.
Not a comfortable role after the last years updates, real respect
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yes thank you Rob!
A few more suggestions
1. I'd like to see online Designer become not just an editor for documents and files created in the desktop programs but rather an independent program of its own that would be capable of creating art/graphics, websites and desktop publishing. To be able to do that and be able to open pdfs created not only in Xara programs but other programs plus the fact that it works cross platform you would really have something very special!
2. boolean operations like add, subtract, intersect etc
3. vector curves and node editing
4. convert to curves for the smartshapes and text
5. bitmap fills
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Hi Rob - always one of the good guys, along with Phil...
for 10 years [yes :eek:] I have been asking for things... some came to pass :cool: - some did not...
all I want now is for the company to survive - do what is best for this...
my lineart has gone raster, and the new project that I mentioned to GWP [animation] is taking over my life [:D] but I still love xara for basic vector and simply cropping and re-sizing bitmaps
hang on iin there....
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Re: Xara online designer, omg
I've been using Xara s/w since Xara 3d v3 and my v12 XDP support has recently expired. I'm assuming that access will expire for online version users when their year is up, and I'm casually wondering how many machines one can access their online subscription through - one at a time of course. Anyway, the online scheme is not acceptable to me. My Xara Designer versions 10, 11 and 12 are all still useable past their expiry dates. I certainly want to see Xara and Magix survive and prosper. I happily support Magix by using Sound Forge Audio Studio 12, but there is no creative incentive for me to extend my XDP v12 subscription for another year because it does more than I need and I can use it whether the internet is down or not. At the time of writing this reply our internet connection has just been restored after being down for >24 hours, one of many interruptions we suffer on our shiny new Aussie fibre network with 50 year old copper to the premises! Other online users may have connectivity issues too, so I hope that the online version dev's have contingencies in place. It is too much to trust that the internet will always be up and running without issues, so having a familiar, working, stable product on your PC is unbeatable in my book.
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Re: Xara online designer, omg
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Originally Posted by
cmpan1
OK Rob.... because of your interaction with this forum and your helpful, informative interaction, you've given me a bit of a boost in confidence and motivation for the future of my Xara!
So, I'm gonna bite again with the upgrade tonight... (because of you!... not their marketing...) and hope that I/we see some significant additions (per user requests) to the desktop version.
And, I also want to throw some $upport Xara's way... it's only right... works two ways, right?
Thanks
Cliff
Hi Cliff,
I presume that your version has expired. If you have not yet renewed, then I suggest that you wait until the next round of new features coming out probably in November. Then you will have them and everything else locked in. Unless you have a vey good offer from Xara, of course.