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The quality of thumbnails and pop photos for my site is quite poor. Is there anyway of improving these. I drag a number of photos from Bridge onto the Widget, these are JPEG high quality but the end result is quite poor. Any ideas please of or if I'm doing something wrong. Terry
What's Bridge Tel?
Hi Egg thought you was on holiday not hearing from you lately. It's Adobe Photo Album software works closely with Photoshop. Terry
If you want to see what I'm trying to achieve .rutlandcountyseniors.org/away%20gallery%20a TerryQuote:
Originally Posted by golfertel
Hi, what platform you used for your website? maybe I can help out, I saw your website, it has lots of errors. how you transfer photos to the website?Quote:
Originally Posted by golfertel
Hi Using Window 10 and Xara Premium 15. I download images from my Adobe Bridge onto the Gallery Widget on a page of my WEB site in Xara. Images have a sharpness in Bridge and Photoshop which I would expect to be reflected in the Thumbnails and their Pop ups.
Look forward to hearing your conclusions.
adb, if you don't use or indicate that you have a Xara product then how helpful will your contributions actually be?Quote:
Originally Posted by adb
The OP has already described how he handles photo import; he does not need to transfer them to a website with Xara.
It does not matter what platform is being used for a website as a website is browser-driven or if the website has errors.
Please focus on the question in hand.
Acorn
Terry, Xara can reduce resolution if you just drop things in.Quote:
Originally Posted by golfertel
I'd open a separate Blank photo file and drop images there.
They are then accessible through the Bitmap gallery to drag into the Widget.
Perhaps that will help,
Acorn
Acorn Good to hear from you. Is there an optimum size and resolution I should you that would also help matters. I also assume that JPEG is the required format. Terry
Apologies but I'm a bit lost, have been trying to resolve the matter, can you explain the process "I'd open a separate Blank photo file".
Is the created in the Bitmap Gallery if so I cannot find how to do it or do I create this outside of Xara, if so not sure what you mean by "Photo file" Terry
Terry, provided the image resolution you are using provided enough for the pop-up then Xara will publish at its optimum.Quote:
Originally Posted by golfertel
XDPX allows you to change the default 96dpi (Options > View > Bitmaps).
There is also a Retina setting (192dpi) you might try.
Acorn
Thanks I have enough to be getting with the problem. Terry
What I have observed when bringing a high rez photo into a web page document, is regardless of the original resolution, if the dpi exceeds 260dpi, it is reduced to 260dpi. If you (and this is a PITA) import the photos into a Print document, the images come in at full resolution. You can scale, etc. When you publish as has been pointed out, Xara will export the images as JPG or PNG at 96dpi, and if you opt for retina display, a duplicate at 192dpi.
That said, looking at your gallery, and the age of most of the people in the photo (about my age) I wonder if you are not over thinking this? I doubt if these folks in this community could discern a sharp photo from a fuzzy one? The appeal to the community is seeing photos of the members. You are not selling a product here that depends on the highest quality photography. Just my dos centavos of course.
Hi Nearly all images are 200 or 72 dpi as most of them are straight off of cameras but they can be quite large. One thing I did ask if they are large then when dragging into a widget they will be compressed and I assume lossy. If I know the optimum size I can then change my image sizes before I pull then into Xara which I feel could be the route cause of the problem, it's a guess on my part. If you know the size could you pass that on please.
Your second paragraph is amusing, first I had to look up the meaning of PITA and "dos centavos" that done about 4 members,Seniors, pointed out the lack of sharpness of the images even though I have not really released it to the section, maybe because on two other sites we have the images are pretty good. You are quite right we are not selling a product, but that doesn't mean we should not strive for the best. I have not taken offence by the way, I appreciate anyone who offers help.
To repeat I use Bridge and Photoshop not the Xara Photo Graphic package. Thanks for coming back to me. Terry
Out of interest I cropped about 10 images to the optimum of the widget images, 500 X 375 px at 250 DPI and dropped them into the Xara widget. The end result viewing on preview there was an improvement in quality but it wasn't dramatic enough to warrant the time it would take to carry out that process on about 400 images. My conclusion is, after a lot of discussion with you all thank you, is I'm going to accept the quality that the widget produces. As far as I'm concerned it was worth investigating, I thank you again. Terry
Well 72dpi is what Apple has always used. So any image at 72dpi when in Xara is going to be soft.
The attached photo at this size is about 130dpi. I optimized one to 96 and the other to 72dpi. (Right click on the photo and select Optimize Photo > Resolution.)
So maybe your photos are less than 96dpi which will definitely cause a loss of sharpness and detail.
Could you attach one large image direct from your camera and also state what widget your using Terry? That way we could all have a go at 'best results'
As requested Egg, this straight from one of my camera's but only 72 dpi, however there must be a limit on size of attachment, will try it out. Apologies for delay have been out and about. Get back to you as soo as I can. Terry
The attachments were 4 and 8 Mb files so they now been compressed by the attachment process, can I send them any other way so they do not get compressed like that?
This is not this hard. 72dpi is the resolution of many photos. On a Mac desktop screen the photo will be sharp. On a Windows screen it will not.
If you looked at my two photos it demonstrates that IF your photos are less than 96dpi, they are going to be fuzzy.
My God! The knees, the knees!Quote:
Originally Posted by golfertel
Terry, click on the Go Advanced and add one as a "proper" attachment (Attachments > Add File), not Insert Image.
You will have to ZIP the image first:
Allowed FiletypesX
Acorn
Attachment 120940Attachment 120940 Hopefully this is correct. Thank for the capacity listing. Terry
TI tried to view your image Terry, but, the way I see it the image zip is password protected, so cannot be viewed, at least least not by me, but i admit I don't know anything about web designer so could be wrong. If it is a naughty picture, thank you for password protecting it because this is after all a family site.
Never mind Terry I managed to open it in a new tab and it looks OK to me.
No it's not naughty and if it is password protected I don't know how I did it, I'll wait to hear from someone else before I try anything else. The only naughty bit is old men's knobbly knees, golfers at that.
That's a great image filesize wise Tel, won't comment on the knees. I did ask:
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... and also state what widget your using?
Thanks Egg just to say they are not mine, I don't any golf course is ready for mine. Cheers Terry
Sure they're not Tel but you still haven't said what widget you're using? It's name in the content gallery?
As I stated your source image is of a plentiful size. I've created a 562 x 750 px image (some widgets using this as maximum height) from the attached. I can't see any problem with this quality.
Apologies Components>Image Resources>Gallery (5 col) Widget". Whilst I tend to clean up the images before dragging them onto the widget any that do not fit or have been cropped by the Widget it still allows you adjust the image with the normal picture tool i.e. clicking on it and using the adjust handles, an amazing facility. I have put a few more up on site, some of which I still need to adjust the size etc. Terry
When you go onto the site quite a number of the images appear fuzzy, however I know the originals are crisp and just felt I was doing something incorrectly, typically the Wizard was compressing them into a very lossy state. Terry
Terry, now you've advised you have used the Gallery (5 col) Widget, my advice is don't.
See this, https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...804#post513804, for a better approach.
The Gallery is extremely limiting; the thumbs are fixed and fuzzy, the layout is fixed, the pop-up size is fixed.
You can easily re-purpose mine to your needs.
The Smart Photo Grid 2 Widget can be manipulated to present pop-ups as well.
You have to expand the Photo grid in the Page & Layer gallery and select the Clipped photos to then apply the Photo pop-up setting you want.
Acorn
Hi abd and welcome to TalkGraphics—
Links are not allowed for members who are new and have not posted enough content (ie. questions, tips) to demonstrate you're serious about joining this community.
Sorry for the inconvenience, but this is clearly posted where you signed up.
Sincerely,
Barbara B.
Hi I honestly do not know what you are talking about, would you like to explain!!!
Terry, Barbara is referring back to Post #5, https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...984#post592984, of a new joiner (abd) with the chutzpah to offer advice yet not have the product in question. Barbara was pointing up other transgressions.Quote:
Originally Posted by golfertel
Acorn
My apologies, I thought the "abd" was a spelling mistake and the message was directed at me, I was bewildered. Terry
okayQuote:
Originally Posted by Acorn
i don't have Xara product, thaught it's just an error in synchronizing the sections for photos.
Cheers adb, why not download a trial Xara application and become a convert?Quote:
Originally Posted by adb
Acorn