A new font resource

...at least, HypeForType is new to me. Their owner (a one-man show with a few contract players) contacted me, I told him to stop spamming me just because I'd bought one font from his site, he wrote a detailed apology, and the two of us are cool now. :)

The fellow is trying to make new and interesting fonts easy for people who do typography easy to find. Two of his Greatest Hits, NeoDeco (which you'll think "buzzes" here, but it's really fine work and needs to display at large sizes), and Calgary Script, which is casual but very powerful, can be seen here.


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The next time you have a few bucks left in a budget for text that will look fresh, and almost unique in your ad, check out

Hype Fore Type .

He's a clearing house for a few boutique foundries and has other exclusives. You might find the foundry font you seek is cheaper at HFT.

My Best,

Gary

Oh, great! Another place to purchase fonts...actually I have the site bookmarked. Found it on someone's blog but haven't purchased any form their (that I recall. It's all such a blur).

But thanks for the reminder. I'll take a good look with my last $50 I have in my pocket...

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I'll take a good look with my last $50 I have in my pocket...

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In reality, that would get you 5 fonts if you pick carefully, Mike.

No, the guy and I really had a good email chat, and I did have a project where I had budgeted for some fonts, and his site gave me the "nice price", lower than MyFonts.com for certain items.

-g

I was just having a look at this site very nice stuff. One thing though I noticed that there are licensing options for desktop, apps, games and enterprise but no simple options for webfonts. Gary, do you know if these fonts can be used as web fonts?

Oh, this conversation goes back more than a year, Frances. :)

Neither of us were able to locate a working email for Mr. Steffmann. The TypeOasis website is basically static (IOW, dead but available), and me, I'd err on the side of caution and use an SVG or a bitmap copy of the text.

-g

I think you have mixed up the conversations Gary, we are talking about Hype for Type here. Dieter Steffmann was mentioned in the other thread Or am I the one who is confused? :)

Being somewhat mixed-up myself, I don't doubt you're right, Frances.

I don't know much more about the fonts than the bare bones download I did. I didn't see documentation about the license, but I'm sure if you email him at foundry@hypefortype.com, I'm sure he'd enlighten all of us on WebFont use.

My Best,

Gary

OK. I lasted almost a day. One does need to ensure what currency they are browsing the site with...Else in the USA one just might think they are getting a really good deal. I have had the Salamander Script sitting in a shortcut to check the price on a couple sites now and again. This was the best price I have seen. One of these fonts came off of Mighty Deals (Mister Poster).

Ah, so many fonts, so little time.

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I saw Mr. Poster, Mike, and reflexively I was going to go fetch it, but I myself can do a half-hearted, amateurish font! Have no idea what I'd use it for.

Salamander Script looks useful!

My Best,

Gary

I think that a font such as Mister Poster would be far more involved to make the variations than Salamander Script...

I have no idea when or on what I will ever use it (other than just using it for forum stuff). It cost what a couple of Starbucks coffees do. Which I will typically consume in quantity when I go with my wife shopping. Seeing how I missed all the opportunities to go shopping with her for a year, I am actually ahead of the curve.

I love it, Mike. You use a similar accounting method to mine, which I call "Economic Rationalization and Equivalency". When I quit smoking years ago, I felt the money should go in a piggy bank instead of back into the General Kitty. And I always try to evaluate whether a toy...I'm being honest here, fonts are toys...is less than, say, a Whopper with cheese and bacon.

This works out very nicely because fast food places are charging $75/pound for second-rate meat.

I collected a few Script faces that are similar in spirit to Salamander off one of my drives. Many of them are free. you just need to look and be wary of font-holes where you get malware for your time.

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My Best,

Gary

Yeah, some freebie sites actually can cost someone aggravation. One local screen printer I do work for has a penchant for clicking hither and dither on some of the free sites. Last time their computer guy went nuts, it took a day to rid the computer of nasties.

With fonts, I have a thing for the odd, some grungy, and for scripts (probably in that order of preference). I have decades worth of sans serif and serif fonts. Doing books and manuals for so long, I didn't really purchase "different" fonts much, just used what came with CorelDraw for the most part, some downloads, etc. My favorite script creator is Laura Worthington. Love her stuff.

Now if XDP could actually make full use of modern fonts. I did a flier not long ago that I began in XDP but needed to finish the type in CD so I could make use of the alternates, etc. Pity.

Xara Designer 10, perhaps, Mike.

I'd be nice...no, necessary, for a dtp program to be able to access all the Unicode characters, mostly the alternate characters.

My fave for a long time has been David Farey. He gets my vote for having created Beesknees after the title cards from a Marx Brothers movie, even if he didn't create any other font.

Leslie Carbaga for having designed Magneto and several other winners. And for looking too much like Robert Downey with the Tony Stark porn-stache.

Judith Sutcliffe has also contributed a lot of fresh faces, in particular Daly Text and Daly Hand, flawless for package design, especially food items.

These are contemporaries and we should forget the late Herb Lubalin, Harman Zapf, Adrian Frutiger, and others in the latter half of the 20th century for their outstanding, visionary work.

-g

I have Bee's Knees. What always bothered me was the decision to not combine the SC as lowercase with the regular. In fact, all one really needs to purchase (if they like the font) is to buy the small caps version. Leave the cap lock on and you get the all uppercase of the regular version.

Mike

Mike, I'd venture that a lot of times if a character set has no lower case, and the creator decides to use 70% scaled uppercase as a substitute for Small Caps, it's a cheat.

That sort of stuff might work for some headline and novelty fonts, but true Small Caps are smaller than the caps but also maintain the character stroke weight of the caps.

When I buy Expert sets, I always look at the SC and the OsF (OldStyle figures) members. If the Small Caps is a retread of the caps, I hesitate buying the set.

Heck, I know how to make fake Small Caps in Xara and with FontLab! :)

My Best,

Gary

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Mike, I'd venture that a lot of times if a character set has no lower case, and the creator decides to use 70% scaled uppercase as a substitute for Small Caps, it's a cheat.

That sort of stuff might work for some headline and novelty fonts, but true Small Caps are smaller than the caps but also maintain the character stroke weight of the caps.

When I buy Expert sets, I always look at the SC and the OsF (OldStyle figures) members. If the Small Caps is a retread of the caps, I hesitate buying the set.

Heck, I know how to make fake Small Caps in Xara and with FontLab! :)...

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Absolutely. FWIW, I have attached a screen shot. As you mention, it is easy enough to fake them when needed. In this case, there is a little tweaking whoever made the SC version. Kerning is different. Weight is ever so different. But hey, as a headline font (no one would use this for anything but), the SC version supplies anything one would need.

Black is the regular, red is the SC. I have scaled down the regular (black) to the same cap height as the SC version. Not enough difference to care about...which is why just buying the SC version saves a bit of mucking around to get smaller versions when one would want to differentiate between larger/smaller characters.

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My take is it's not THAT good a typeface to care where there's a micro-millimeter difference here and there! :)

And I used to hand-kern headlines for ads when I worked at an agency, and I hand-kern headlines today.

You cannot depend on the font creator for your own needs and nuances.

-g

Thanks for sharing this - always need more places to get fonts from!

Hi and welcome to TalkGraphics, LasuraLouise!

Patronize the fellow if and when your budget allows. He made sounds as though TG might be able to get a discount in the future.

My Best,

Gary

Great place.