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ALERT: Newbie inquiry
Selecting an object under another should be enabled by left-alt, then click (with the select tool). Not here! The cursor flips, but no selection is made -- or if the top object was selected, does NOT select the object beneath.
Any insight?
(I have boxed software, not trial)
ALERT: Newbie inquiry
Selecting an object under another should be enabled by left-alt, then click (with the select tool). Not here! The cursor flips, but no selection is made -- or if the top object was selected, does NOT select the object beneath.
Any insight?
(I have boxed software, not trial)
Can you post the Xara file (or portion of the Xara file) that is giving you the problem?
Hello Lonnie, welcome to Talkgraphics http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
It should work as you are doing...
Try with another image to check if it works or not. If not it´s maybe an instalation problem?! Something get corrupted.
Miguel B.
Are the objects grouped?
If you drag a selection marquee around the objects (using the Selector Tool (the arrow pointer) drag a rectangle around all the objects) what does the message on the status bar say? (The status bar is in the lower left corner of the screen).
Gary
Hi Lonnie,
If the beneath object is on a non-editable layer, you can see it but not select it. Check the configuration of your Layers Gallery.
-- Sam
John: This is the case with ANY drawing. Simple test case: New drawing, draw two overlapping ellipses, Select tool -- Alt (cursor flips) but no amount of clicking on objects selects anything.
Miguel: Like above, ANY drawing. I uninstalled - reinstalled Xara. I note that it works if I Alt-RIGHTclick, but still cannot drag-move selected object (Ctrl-Alt drag). I can move selected (under) object with cursor keys, but not elsewise.
Gary: No, not grouped. Multiple selecting objects works fine, status bar indicating (in this case) 2 ellipses...
Sammo: Only one layer in use with this simple test case.
More details: Xara 1.1d -- WinXP Pro SP2 -- AMD 2400+ -- 1M Ram -- MS optical mouse. I just tested also with my Wacom tablet... same thing!
Baffled http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/frown.gif
Hi Lonnie,
Check Utilities >> Options >> Mouse. Make sure Left Mouse Button is set for Normal Click. The other Left Mouse Button function choices behave differently than you'd expect when Alt is also pressed.
Utilities >> Options >> Mouse >> Left Mouse Button IS set for Normal Click. That's one reason I did a clean install. No options have been changed from default.
Hmmm.
Just tried this and it works for me.
Nother question. Are both ellipses the same color?
I made one ellipse red and one blue and when I Alt click the color in the status bar toggles from one color to the other.
Gary
Gary: Differences in color, size or any attribute make no difference. I can't replicate your color toggling behavior. Alt-clicking has no effect with any action I've tried.
It just seems that something with my system is interfering with this particular function. Everything else I've done while working through the XaraXone tuts works as advertised -- though I have had a number of crashes (probably due to pushing the limits). I just can't imagine what the problem could be in this instance.
Maybe one of the Xara techs who hang around here can lend some insight.
"1M Ram" - Lonnie
Was this a typo? Do they even make 1meg anymore? I tried you example. Created an elipse, cloned it (control-K), turned the new one red. Selected the red(top) one, then alt-clicked the red one and the black one was selected but I could not drag it...
Hi Lonnie,
It does sound as if some other program installed on your machine might be handling the Alt keys in a way that prevents Xara X from dealing with them how it wants.
However, just to get a handle on this problem, can you confirm whether the following sequence works or not:
* New document
* Draw two overlapping ellipses
* Make sure neither is selected
* In the Selector tool position the pointer over the overlapping area of the two ellipses
* Hold down left-Alt key
* Click once (You should see the top ellipse become selected)
* Click again (You should see the bottom ellipse become selected)
* Release the left-Alt key
Sorry if that sounds a bit basic, but I need to eliminate as many variables as possible and know that you're doing exactly what I'm doing.
Thanks,
Phil
John: Yup... typo! Meant 1G. So, you can't drag-move a selected under object either?
PhilM: That's "exactly" what I've tried. Alt-RIGHTclick does cycle through stacked selections. Can't drag-move (Ctrl-Alt drag) though. Alt key does flip cursor though as expected, so it is recognizing the keypress.
Hi Lonnie,
As PhilM sugested maybe another program is making some kind of interference with the Xara shortcuts. It already hapened me before.
Try this: Close as much third partie programs runing in background as you can (those runing in the system tray) and anything else you don´t need in the processes tab of the windows task manager (don´t stop system processes, only third partie app). and then try again alt+click +drag in Xara. If it works the problem is with one of those third partie programs that is probably blocking some shortcut keys.
Regards,
Miguel B.
Miguel: You nailed it http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/eek.gif
The culprit was "1-click Answers" (see Answers.com), which is triggered by alt-click.
Thank you SO much. I guess I was not seeing the forest for the trees. When I read your suggestion the light came on immediately! I sure hope this little incident will help others. Once I exited that proggy, everything works in Xara as advertised http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/mad.gif
You could always use the Tab key to sequence through the objects, but if you have a ton of objects on the page this can get laborious.
Glad to hear you solved the problem.
We can all sleep better now :-)
Gary
You´re welcome!
Glad to know everything is solved http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
Regards,
Miguel B.