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I had to think hard about the choices.
I've been using Xara Xtreme to create web pages for about a month now.
Although I still use Visual Studio 2008 for a lot of my web work.
I decided to vote for Xtreme as it may become my primary tool of choice because of it's ease of creating better looking design.
I guess it depends what you mean by 'authoring'!
For specc-ing the structure I use Visio or Xara Xtreme.
For the graphics I use Xara Xtreme 99% of the time.
For the text prep Microsoft Word.
For the construction of the site (css, templates, php etc) Dreamweaver
For the database, the usual MySQL tools, or Access for offline content
For the content of the site Dreamweaver, with TextPad (and trialling EmEditor which has better macro capabilities than TextPad)
I occasionally use Microsoft Web Expressions.
I mainly use Microsoft Expressions web because it has .asp support. But I also generate some "sub webs: in Xara eXtreme.
Website editor : Dreamweaver
Webgraphics : XaraXtremePro 4
Most photo editing : Photoshop
Animations : Flash and/or Xara
:)
Where can i post my question about the New Xara webdesigner?
Behzad please post your questions in Gary's post announcing Xara Web Designer: http://www.talkgraphics.com/showthread.php?t=36554
I used to use homepage a lot, which was bought out by Adobe, not sure if it is still supported. It was mostly a text editor.
If I need graphics , I mostly use xtreme. Now a days I just use a free program called hap edit.
I use Xtreme 4 for site mockup and component creation.
Use Netobjects Fusion for most of my websites.
Also have Adobe Golive cs2, but don't used it as often as NOF.
- Andy
MS Web Expression 2 or Notepad ++
Web Expression should be in the list, IMO...
Webdesign: Mediator9 (Matchware)
Graphic design: xaraXtreme 4
I saw the videos of webdesigner and I think it is easy to used, like mediator, just for much less money. Mediator cost 539 € :rolleyes:.
To the disapproval of many I use Adobe Flash. I've always failed to see why I should create my web graphics in a vector format in XX then change them to a raster for use in a web page.
I must point out however that I don't use preloaders (1% loaded, 2% loaded, 3% loaded, etc) I just enjoy working in vectors, having exact screen placement which wasn't possible until a short while ago via html.
So I'm down as "Others"
Although I voted for NetObjects Fusion, which I have used since version 3, I will be using Xara Web Designer for more of my small jobs. Once you have set up a site template adding content is easy and most of the drawing and image editing tools are right in the program as well as the FTP module.
Since the announcement of Xara Web Designer I would change my vote to this new application. :)
Xara Xtreme 4 for mockup
MS Expression Web 2 to create html/css
Rest depends on if we talk about web applications or sites that just deliver static content.
Juergen
1st Page 2000 (not any newer version though - I don't like 'em).
For HTML and CSS : Kompozer (used to, but now I usually code everything manually in PSPad)
Graphics : Xara Xtreme Pro 4
Photo Editing : Paint Shop Pro
Flash Sites & Tutorials : Xara & Swish
- Xtreme Pro 4 fits for any graphics purposes for me, when it comes to designing websites.
- HTML, PHP, CSS, JavaScript and the like goes into DreamWeaver...
...but I have to admit I can hardly wait to put my hands on Xara Web Designer.
bye.
I use the suite of various web tools developed by CoffeeCup software. In fact, it was at the CC forums where I first heard of Xara.
No mention of the 2 nd most popular web editor up until 3 years ago in the list, GoLive which is shocking. Still use it as it has "smart objects" as do the rest of the Adobe Suite and it has great support for CSS and at the time better than DW,
• Dynamic HTML Editor / Is actually an HTML generator - Good W3C
• Weblus X2 - Nice for drawing/templates/effects/site checker etc/anti-alias on page for certain graphics weak/graphic on page resize weak/good forms maker
• Coffee-cup HTML editor
* Flash - • Swish • Quicker • SWF Easy
Look forward to test Xara Web Designer
Some people look down upon Dreamweaver (cuz it's not hardcore like coding HTML directly) but I use it and love it. :)
Hi Spinny,
you have to reconsider, that Xara is trying to marketing their product this way ("no HTML skills required"). But the question is: Do you believe in this?
I'm sure we will see a lot of new threads within the next weeks, because there are problems here and there and maybe some users will be disappointed, if they really thought that they would not need the necessary skills for jumping into the Web-Business... ;)
Remi
For my part I must admit, I'm a little skeptical about the idea that WD doesn't need the ability to insert code into the header. On these forums alone I've read posts from some people who point out useful little snippets that belong there. I might hope that in a later version they borrow from the Coffee Cup WYSIWYG web designer and add a little drop-down dialog box for pasting header snippets in. ;)
People may be interested in Covoxer's reply in the thread http://www.talkgraphics.com/showthread.php?t=36661
Sweet. Just got back from lunch and hadn't caught up on all the threads yet. Thanks! :D
I have been using Notepad/wordpad to design websites since '95 I think. I update 50 meg worth of webpages daily. Sorry, there are things that a WYSIWYG editor just can't do economically. I just rebuilt my 1500+ page website in under 30 seconds.
I have been using Xara since 1.0 days for my web graphics/layout. It is one fantastic piece of software.
I doubt I will get the new program. Once you can sling the code, nothing else will suit your needs. There is nothing faster loading than flat html.
I see there are a few code slingers still out there.
Use Coffeecup, Textpad and am experimenting with Expression Web
I use Notepad+ for most things. I've used many other programs but seem to always return to the old fashioned way of doing things. I use jQuery for most of my javascript and try to maintain separation of structure, presentation and behavior.
That doesn't mean I will not use a program like Web Designer for quick sites with only a few pages. I plan on purchasing Web Designer within the next few days.
I use Xara Xtreme for web graphics.
Some things are very complex to hand code, but I see round websites in my future using Web Designer.:D
Yes sir, I do.
Xara's Web Designer is an awesome product for beginners and intermediates who'd like to get up and running with web pages in the least amount of time with the smallest learning curve. Its WYSIWYG interface is pretty spot on for quickness, imho.
Xara's Web Designer is also awesome for the professional for prototyping "active" web pages before encoding and tweaking it in more advanced programs. It may not have all the bells and whistles of advanced programs, but it has enough; enough to give your clients a nicely presented drafted view of their website quite quickly. It's certainly a much better tool than creating "static" sample web pages via Xara Extreme, Corel Draw or Adobe AI, which is the way I used to create my prototypes.
Probably another minority opion, but I think Web Designer if fine if you have a very graphic site. However, I design web applications and the tool probably does less than 10% of what I need. I have to be able to show a lot of "functionality" type things where there is a lot of tabluar data and rarely, if every, any pictures. Xara's focus seems to be largely on picture oriented sites with very little functionality (from a database perspective). I do use Xtreme when I need graphics though. We also do a lot of "tab" based navigation schemes and the like and I found the tool pretty awkward for things like that (ues, I did create a "tab" which I could use as a background) but my site design mockup pages use a lot of Javascript and DHTML what is easier to do with other less graphically roiented tools.
The question was, if you believe in their marketing, that "no HTML skills (are) required". Look at the questions and the offered solutions within the Xara Web Designer forum and you can get a reality check.
Remi
@dcahall: I know, what you mean and I'm with you.
Well, well... Here comes the mister "Reality Check"!
Ok, let's check the reality. Is dynamic content possible in WD? No, of course not! Well, how about "reality check" then? http://rgaa.co.uk/newsrelease/members/johntest2d.php
Let's look at solutions offered... How much html skills are required to use them? Let me guess - Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V? That's definitely a deep html knowledge.
What about looking at what requests are resolved? Uh? The answers given expand WD functionality, you don't need them to create web sites, as stated in advertising. And you still don't need html skills even to use those tweaks!
Though I see the position of the mister html expert - "you are all fools, I'm the smartest one here because I know html. Didn't I told you? blah, blah, blah..."
Well tell me then if anyone can create the same sites as can be created in WD without html knowledge in any other software? Uh?
You want a proof that "no HTML skills (are) required"? Look in the forum you are pointing at: http://www.talkgraphics.com/showthread.php?t=36835
There's already a number of sites published by people without any html skills and tweaks from this forum. Not enough for you???
You know, instead of being such a smart ass, you could use your html knowledge and experience to actually help this community. But obviously you either don't want it or you have none. In any case your comments are hypocrisy at it's best.
Sorry for being ****ed off, but there's nothing more disgusting than hypocrisy.
You've lost the countenance, so what. Come down, John - my post shows my personal opinion. It's not offending, and not "smart ass" and not "hypocrisy", so please learn to live with it and please avoid to be offending from your side. Thank you.
Regarding to the point, who is willing (or have the time) to help you or not: Xara has choosed to attract the unexperienced customers, so you have to live with that (and you have to offer them support). It's your job, you get money for it. But please don't expect the same from the TalkGraphics moderators - we are not employees of Xara.
Regards,
Remi
Fair enough.
It is hypocrisy and it is deliberate attempt to discredit our product. This is my opinion.Quote:
It's not offending, and not "smart ass" and not "hypocrisy",
Ok. Learn to live with my opinion of you then.Quote:
so please learn to live with it
I am not offending. I'm just puting out my opinion.Quote:
and please avoid to be offending from your side.
Ok, I see, you are here not to help people and contribute to community, but to groundlessly criticize Xara products. I'll have to rememer this. Thanks for clarification.Quote:
But please don't expect the same from the TalkGraphics moderators - we are not employees of Xara.
It's your opinion, so what.
I've learned something about your kind of arguing - especially since I've criticised your work (the HTML export filter).
But please remember, that TalkGraphics is about discussions. You have to learn and accept criticism and not to imply something wrong to members with different opinions.
Remi