Back on topic and a suggestion

I noticed that the other forums did not have ANYTHING political to say this week, so I'll just assume that artists have passions that are outspoken and diverse to the point where we could have our OWN war right here on the 3D forum.

But that's not what draws us here, is it? It's the kinsmanship that everyone from Earl to Klaus to Sharon to Stu to Panfer feel.

Okay, Stu, because you have not submitted a model for the second (September)BAP competition, would you please be the judge? If you want to hustle in something today, Erik will you volunteer?

I have an idea for a group project; you guys tell me whether this can fly or not. I suggest that each of a number of us collectively build a model. Example: I will supply the paths in Illustrator format, someone else will do the sculpting, someone else can refine the sculpting of they have the same program, someone else takes the work and lights it, we have a background creator and a cameraman...is thi making sense?

See the picture attached. We have a wind-up robot's parts, and there's what it looks like after sculpting it. But it needs far more, doesn't it?

My Best,

Gary David Bouton
Gary@GaryDavidBouton.com
Free education! The Writings Web site
and the updated GaryWorld Gallery is pretty okay, too.

I noticed that the other forums did not have ANYTHING political to say this week, so I'll just assume that artists have passions that are outspoken and diverse to the point where we could have our OWN war right here on the 3D forum.

But that's not what draws us here, is it? It's the kinsmanship that everyone from Earl to Klaus to Sharon to Stu to Panfer feel.

Okay, Stu, because you have not submitted a model for the second (September)BAP competition, would you please be the judge? If you want to hustle in something today, Erik will you volunteer?

I have an idea for a group project; you guys tell me whether this can fly or not. I suggest that each of a number of us collectively build a model. Example: I will supply the paths in Illustrator format, someone else will do the sculpting, someone else can refine the sculpting of they have the same program, someone else takes the work and lights it, we have a background creator and a cameraman...is thi making sense?

See the picture attached. We have a wind-up robot's parts, and there's what it looks like after sculpting it. But it needs far more, doesn't it?

My Best,

Gary David Bouton
Gary@GaryDavidBouton.com
Free education! The Writings Web site
and the updated GaryWorld Gallery is pretty okay, too.

You can count on me, to do what I can [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

I am going camping this weekend, so I will not be back till Monday,

--Randy

Gang--

Please tell me what you think would be your area of expertise on this group thing. I'd like to start by contributing the paths for the little wind-up toy.

Sculpting it will probably be the hardest thing. It's not as easy as it looks.

I will post the paths once we have a volunteer to sculpt the thing.

Jens? Stu? Do I hear a "yay" anywhere?


My Best,

Gary David Bouton
Gary@GaryDavidBouton.com
Free education! The Writings Web site
and the updated GaryWorld Gallery is pretty okay, too.

Very noble idea Gary. I'm all for it. The only problem I see is getting all our different programs to talk to each other without grief.

I wouldn't mind being in charge of final rendering/lighting. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

Terrific, Earl.

You'll do the lighting. I think we should try to work in the OBJ format, as most programs accept this format.

So you're on lighting. We need a SCULPTOR now!


My Best,

Gary David Bouton
Gary@GaryDavidBouton.com
Free education! The Writings Web site
and the updated GaryWorld Gallery is pretty okay, too.

Gary I put a toothbrush in the modelling comp ages ago.....I think?......maybe you should check coz maybe I didnt then.....I could have sworn Mark and I had a conversatoin on the fact that the bristles could also be used as buildings with tweaking [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]


Stu.

I found it

http://talkgraphics.infopop.net/1/Op...1481938562&p=2

I was beginning to wonder if I was completely wheeeep paaaarp whine ahooogah losing it [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] ,glad to see I am not [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]


Stu.

As a non-modelling follower of this forum - can I contribute a texture or two?? I'd like to help.

Regards, Ross

<a href=http://www.designstop.com/>DesignStop.Com</a>

Ross I dont think anyone will have a problem with that [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]


Stu.

I guess i could take a shot at the sculpting guys, hehee. That's the toughest and most time consuming part huh? Doh! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

Gary, can you post a zipped file here containing high-res versions of the AI files? C4D can import AI files so that should be ok for any of us using that app.

I'd like to be in but i'm not up on any of these programs I think.

Sharon P.
www.fischerpassmoredesign.com

...ok so...

If we're into doing this "party-project"... and i'm taking on the sculpting aspects... then this is what i have done thus far.

I think i just need to add some kind of a breast plate to 'em, and maybe a few other tweaks. It's not EXACTLY like the one Gary did, but that's ok isn't it? I can adjust things if it's not.

Does this look ok folks? Can i pass off the .obj files to the next bloke when i'm done the breast plate?

Let me know!
And let me know too if ya think i should, or need to add anything else to 'em.

PS: the person doing the texturing can make any parts they want glass, metal, plastic, etc. I made things look solid here just because... [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif[/img]

I'd also like to help, but I have no modeling programs! that sucks! I could help Ross with the texture maybe? Or I could come up with a design concept for the bot. Mark already has a good one though! Anyway I can help, just ask

Steve Newport

Okay, look--


Yes, we need textures, yes we need other things in the foreground besides the windup toy. Is this an indoor tabletop or outdoors scene? I'm going to let the texsturing and rendering people in on this one.

I think the picture of the robot looks cool right now, but needs a lot of modeling detail. His head is glass, so we should see some eyes and a brain in there, like "Forbidden Planet", you know?


Attached here are the ai files. BTW, ai files are vectors, so resolution is irrelevant. It's only when you use bitmap (placeable) EPS that resolution matters Perhaps that should be a discussion topic, 'cause it took me 2 years to dicover the diff between interpreted (parsable) and placeable EPS files, of which AI files are a superset (they have more custom propoerties).

By the way, I suggest so we have no cross-platform problems, that we all meet in Bryce once the model(s) are done, no?


Gare

Gary David Bouton
Gary@GaryDavidBouton.com
Free education! The Writings Web site
and the updated GaryWorld Gallery is pretty okay, too.

Hey--

Sharon,

You couild easily help by modeling books or trees or something that can be used as a foreground environment for the droid in DREAM, and then pass it off to Mark in DXF or OBJ format.

Ross and Steve---TexturExperts! Why not coordinate with Sharon on what textures she will need for foreground objects.


We also need BRAINWORK ! What goes into this scene? Earl will need to know that! Kiwi, can you "ride herd" ove the making of a collaborative effort, just like they do at ILM and PIXAR. What is the point of the robot? Does the scene need a child's hand reaching in to pick it up? Is the droid doomed to fall off a tabletop? Is is shiney or eroded, and what in the scene would indicate how it got that way!

THINK "STORY" folks, and don't be afraid to talk to one another. This might seem like a nice, goof-around exercise, but it is not! It's practicing to fit into a group of modelers and animators like in the real world! We should learn here how to cooperate to make a kick-ass image.

OR...ya want this to be an animation? Let's keep thinking as we progress.


Kindest Regards,

Gary David Bouton
Gary@GaryDavidBouton.com
Free education! The Writings Web site
and the updated GaryWorld Gallery is pretty okay, too.

Although I do not want to hinder indep[endent creative process(es), Mark, I'm attaching a DXF of the robot I bulit...to give you IDEAS, AND NOT to crimp your imagination or direct you, okay?


Please glean what you can, and probably put a stupid decal of dials and knobs on his chest or something, no?

It's a toy robot, and we don't know what it is doing 'cause no one has volunteered that yet.

Perhaps he's coming out of a box. In which case Ross and Steve whould need to design the box (probably use XARA)?

This is WIDE OPEN, folks. Contribute, contribute. First prize is a trip to PIXAR (I'm kidding, but you know the kind of spirit I mean;)


Gare

Gary David Bouton
Gary@GaryDavidBouton.com
Free education! The Writings Web site
and the updated GaryWorld Gallery is pretty okay, too.

Mark--I'm emailing you the robot dxf file, 'cause the forum only allows 300KB uploads.

Hasn't infopop heard of cable modems? [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

Gary

Gary David Bouton
Gary@GaryDavidBouton.com
Free education! The Writings Web site
and the updated GaryWorld Gallery is pretty okay, too.

Are we going to animate this thing? I think that which foreground objects will be important if the robot is walking on them or tripping over them.

Sharon P.
www.fischerpassmoredesign.com

Ok how about Robot on big adventure walking through the desert,desert I can handle.


Stu.

Oh ya I am not hooked up to cable I am on a 56k modem,and my !@###$%^^^ ISP will not let me send files larger than about 1.4 m,which is a huge pain in the ass.


Stu.

I don't consider myself having enough experience in modelling so I could give the 2D textures a try.

-Paul

Ok lets go with a robot walking in the desert. He is creaking along, been without oil or a battery recharge for days. He is starting to hallucinate. He seeing visions of an oaisis, with a beatifull female robots serving him tall cool glasses of oil. And he is sitting in a lounge chair that is actually a recharging device.
etc..etc..

--Randy

...another idea for the 'main scene'...

The robot is walking out of a small box. It's a gift box, and has some coloured crumpled tissue-like wrapping paper packed inside it. The box has a bow or lace sitting off to the side, untied.
The lid could be visible off to the side also.
The box could be sitting on a table, and in the bg could be an outdoor scene - like a back yard. Or, sitting on a rug/carpet, with perhaps a fireplace in the background.


This of course would make the robot brand new looking. So clean textures, and shiny surfaces would be in order.

One of the main things i like about this type of scene idea is that it can have a lot of objects within it. Thus, creating more jobs for everyone - like more diverse textures. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

Just some more thoughts...

I guess i'm doing the "sculpting" here so... i'll need to have some fairly definitive ideas about the robot and his environment and situation before i really get down to cutting him up.

Let's settle on ideas... BUT... let's start a New Thread for them, where only the specific finalized ideas will go, ok?

That way we can keep a sort of "log" of what will be the actual project details.

Yah? Nay? Woot!Woot!?

I'm only tossing out questions, folks. If we are not up to animation, that is cool.

Stu, do not worry concerning bandwidth and speed. I think you will be able to handle it. Yeeeesh, you post image all the time!!!! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

There is a textures thread that is related to the robot assignment, so heads up on the forum.

As I said in the textures thread, I want this to be a group effort, but I personally want to stay out of it, 'cause I've already built the robot once. I want to see fresh visions here.


My Best,

Gary David Bouton
Gary@GaryDavidBouton.com
Free education! The Writings Web site
and the updated GaryWorld Gallery is pretty okay, too.

...probably because it is similar to what came first in my mind when I read about the project. "My" idea was a brand new robot getting out of the box, immediately meeting an "old" similar robot (perhaps they are brothers?). Then we would have new shiny textures for the new robot, and old "scratchy" textures for the old one. It would be an indoor scenery.

-Paul

Ya cool idea Paul!
And that will also generate more jobs for those wishing to do the textures.

Great!

This is just what came to mind when someone mentioned "Desert". Or maybe it could be just a closeup on the "Head" with a desert in the background and the reflection of beautiful green somethin! This could be a design concpet

all done in PS6

Steve Newport