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A friend who has an older Macintosh visited a web site I just completed and said he cannot read any of the type except for one line on the Contact Us page.
If it is not asking too much, can you visit
PlacitasHomes.com and tell me if you have any trouble reading the text.
And if you have problems can you tell me the browser and version you are using (e.g. Internet Explorer 5.5, Netscape 6.x, etc.)
I really appreciate it.
Gary
Gary Priester
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XaraXone
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A friend who has an older Macintosh visited a web site I just completed and said he cannot read any of the type except for one line on the Contact Us page.
If it is not asking too much, can you visit
PlacitasHomes.com and tell me if you have any trouble reading the text.
And if you have problems can you tell me the browser and version you are using (e.g. Internet Explorer 5.5, Netscape 6.x, etc.)
I really appreciate it.
Gary
Gary Priester
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XaraXone
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I'm running 1280x1024 on a 19" monitor. The red text appears very legible to me - I can imagine some folks would find it small.
I find your mouseover colour on the links makes them hard to read.
Regards, Ross
<a href=http://www.designstop.com/>DesignStop.Com</a>
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I am using IE6 on a 17in. monitor set at 1024X768 with text set to medium. All of the text is very clear. The links are purple on my screen and turn sky blue on mouseover which makes them a little hard to read.Nice design on the web site.
I did find one other thing.The description of the lot under new listings is missing.
Mike
[This message was edited by weldorman on August 18, 2002 at 21:06.]
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No problem with the text at all. The text, by comparison to a XaraX screen, appears as an Arial type font @ 10 point (very crisp).
IE 6, 21" monitor 1600 x 1200, but views fine at 800 x 600.
Egg
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Hi Gary,
the site is looking excellent with Opera 6.04 and MSIE 5.5 on 1024 x 768 and 1600 x 1200 screens. Colors are perfect as well as legibility.
Conclusion: don't worry about the site, the problem is inside the Macs ;-}
jens
jens g.r. benthien
designer
http://www.sacalobra.de
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If you don't know how to dream you'll never be a designer.
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Hi Gary
It looks just fine on a PC - I just tried it on my old Mac, a PowerPC 7600/132 and - fine with MSIE5 and Opera 5, but Netscape 4.5 ....well I confess I have never seen anything like it. The text is certainly unreadable and it looks, well..SMEARED. Now we all know that NS4 is a bit of a kludge, but your code has really broken it this time. I am intrigued by this. Will investigate further.
Cheers
James
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Hello Gary, I'm using Mozilla 1.0, at 1280 x 1024, and have no trouble reading the text or viewing the photographs.
I agree with weldorman, the links are hard to read when the mouse is over them, but otherwise it is fine. I had always planned to retire to Dunkeld (a very picturesque part of Scotland), but Placitas is looking good!
Mike
Michael J. Sims
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Gary - just had a look at the code. What I think is happening here is that your stylesheet is a bit too ambitious for NS4. CSS has always been a bit of a stumbling block for early NS. Having said that I just checked it on another PC running NS4.08 and it looks fine. So it would seem to be a Mac issue.
The number of people using early software on old machines is v.small, but might be significant. You cannot use javascript to sniff 'em out either. I'd suggest you options are:
a>ignore it
b>use a heavy-duty detector like browserhawk
c>try tweaking the stylesheet - in particular replace instances where the text size is declared as xxsmall for instance with an actual value in pixels. I'd try the last option first.
Hope this helps some
Cheers
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James it sounds as if you nailed it.
Maybe if I turn off the CSS? Except that will make it load slower for other browsers.
What to do, what to do?
Gary
Gary Priester
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XaraXone
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It's just a problem with older (Mac) browsers. I'd just @import the CSS (at least for the bits that won't work in older browsers) and really font sizes should be defined in 'em's in my experience [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]
Good Mac browser chart here...
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/...index_mac.html
...with links to windows and unix versions.
Should fix it.
I also point people to the WaSP site here:
http://www.webstandards.org/act/campaign/buc/
Hope this helps,
R
Richard
www.graphitedesign.net
www.richardcassidy.com
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...and charming site, Gary! I use Netscape 6.2 and my wide monitor definition is 1600 x 1024, and I don't have any problem to read the texts.
I have only a little problem with the placement of an image (see my attachment) which is overlaid with the charming little gif banner. I love these banners; are they made of brushes and could you post these brushes in the "Xone" for the pleasure of allof us?
Kindly,
ivan
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Ivan
I am not sure why that rule is doing that. Here is how it is supposed to look and how it does look in IE 6.0.
(This is at the bottom of the Real Estate Matters page--does anyone else see this with the rules displaying over the photo?)
The rules are mostly symbols from the Adobe Giddy Up Thangs (Western speak for Things and Giddy Up is what you say to a horse to make him or her run). I made the cacti rules and the cowboy hats rules.
Gary
Gary Priester
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Thanks for your reply about the rules, Gary.
I also appreciate very much your use of colors and simplicity.
Kindly,
ivan
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Gary
The rules look OK on my system - IE 5.5, but I think it is the use of tables on the page that can make some problems.
The rules are placed in dedicated "floating" embedded tables between the other text and pictures in the main tables cell. I think it would have been better to place the contents in dedicated cells in the main table. This way you would will not get conflicts between the spacing in the main cell and embedded tables.
The first table (the menu) on the top of the page seems wider than the second (main table). Perhaps it is a better to only have one main table, and embed tables inn cells when necessary.
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Hi Gary,
zero problems with your site and Internet Explorer 6 - nice work, as always.
Regards, Ernst
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Gary, I've tried it with both Internet Explorer and Netscape Navigator. Looks fine. The only weakness, the light blue on the rollover buttons might be a bit difficult to see - maybe if I cleaned my glasses ... Great site! - Neil
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Sheesh, I cannot read those rollevers either. What could I have been thinking???
Gary
Gary Priester
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XaraXone
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I love the site...you have out done yourself again!!!!!
Now, I bumped up the resolution (screen area) from 1024 x 768, then to 1280 x 1024, then to 1400 x 1050, and finally to 1600 x 1200. The site looked remarkable on all the resolutions except for the 1600 x 1200. Your site had the same problem that Ivan pointed out. Weird? Well, besides that problem, I no longer had the Windows taskbar, I could not see the top bar of anything (where the menus reside, the windows buttons, etc). I thought weird. I moved my mouse to the bottom of the screen and the screen started scrolling up till I could now see the taskbar. I did the same to find the menu bar at the top and then again to the left to see your site correctly. Does this make sense????? Cause it does not to me.
It appears to be either a Windows problem, or a graphics card problem at the higher resolution. I personally would not worry about it. Though this is weird!
I am running Windows 2000 (on a Sony Vaio laptop...yuck), IE 5.5, with some ATI Card with 16MB video memory...it's a work PC. When I leave work sometime tonight (more like in the morning), I can check my home PC. I have XP Pro and a GeForce 2 card.
As far as CSS problems...I have used this for CSS:
<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">
<style type="text/css" media="screen">@import "css/layout.css";</style></pre>
Older browsers ignore the @import and lay the page out with default styles, fonts, etc. This means that you would have to class EVERYTHING and do not use any CSS in the HTML itself.
Hope some of this helps...
Pauly
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What your experiencing is IE's full screen display. You can toggle between full screen and normal by pressing F11. Full screen display gets rid of all the IE "furniture" as well as the task bar, which reappear if you move the mouse to top or bottom of the screen.
Egg
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That is not it. It is doing it to the entire desktop, not just IE. It only does it at the 1600 x 1200 screen area. And the actual screen area is moving (if this makes sense)...I have never seen this before. The full screen in IE is more of an auto hide which is not what I am experiencing.
Now this really bugs me...I really hate computer problems.
Pauly
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Very odd indeed!
Sounds like a video card problem. Sorry I can't help you anymore.
Egg
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WinXP with IE 6.0.2600, resolution set to 1024 X 768, 24 bit color mode and fonts set to 'larger' (for these old eyes of mine) [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
Richard [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]
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[This message was edited by RAMWolff on August 20, 2002 at 09:55.]
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Pauly,
I don't think it's a fault...at your top resolution, you are probably exceeding the maximum resolution of your LCD display. Since the display drivers know the max resolution of the display, windows cleverly allows you to have a desktop of a much higher resolution but only shows you what it can in a scrollable window which is automatically moved by your mouse reaching the edges of the display.
Some graphics cards I've had made a feature of this - you could have huge desktops but you could only see a part it at any one time and it would scroll as you moved the mouse to the edges. Made me feel ill though!
I'm sure that's what you're seeing [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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Graeme
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Graeme,
Sorry, it took so long to say thanks. You are definitely right. I just never put my resolution that high before so I have never seen it. Don't know why someone would want to scroll the desktop like that.
Thanks!
Gary,
Other than having the resolution bumped up that high, your site looks great. I looked at home and your site looks great there too. Great work as usual! A lot of greats? [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
Pauly
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I use IE 5.1 and I'm not experiencing any problems with this site.
Well done Gary [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]
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I've noticed that the 'Top of Page' gif/rollover is not working correctly.
The gif only appears when I place my cursor over it and then it shows a small red x in the corner (over the gif) when I remove the cursor.
I'm using IE 5.0.
Turan
