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I recently bought a photoshop magazine in side there was an article on RAW file formats. I noticed that there was some kind of filter or somthing that could be installed into photoshop to tweek your images. I know that the NEW SLR digital cameras have this file format and I was just curious if any of you have used this feature.
I recently bought a photoshop magazine in side there was an article on RAW file formats. I noticed that there was some kind of filter or somthing that could be installed into photoshop to tweek your images. I know that the NEW SLR digital cameras have this file format and I was just curious if any of you have used this feature.
Photoshop CS includes a RAW plugin. You can get the latest 2.4 version from Adobe for CS that supports more cameras. You can also get RawShooter from Corel(free). Rich
I use a Nikon 5700 camera and since trying the raw format and the import filter in PSCS I would not use any other format. The control over exposure, temperature etc. is far superior to the standard PS adjustment filters.
Christine
where can I get this plugin? I have CS the Creative Suite what CD is it on any of you know?
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On another note:
can you take a JPG and convert it into a RAW file Or, does it have to come from the camera?
I also want to know is this format universal as far as other apps. go?
The RAW plugin was installed with Photoshop CS for me. It was under plug-ins/ file formats. The 2.4 replacement is available from Adobe, and replaces the existing file. RAW is non processed data from the sensor. A jpg is the sensor data with post processing. The RAW data comes from the camera. Some applications can read RAW data. Each camera produces its own flavor. The 2.4 plugin supports more cameras. Raw Shooter supports several cameras, also. I have a Canon camera, and it has comes with Canon software. If you had a RAW file, PSCS might see it if the plugin supports that flavor. Rich
this is going to sound really dumb, but how do you load that specific plugin into photoshop and where to you go to access it.
If you have Photoshop CS, then there should be a plugin available. In earlier versions, this was an added expense. To update the existing plugin, you would make a copy of the installed plugin and put in another location for safety. Then copy and paste the new version to the existing location. The 2.4 version is available for CS only at Adobe.
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloa...atform=Windows
You can go to Pixmantec for Raw Shooter as an option, and that runs standalone.
Rich
In Photoshop you don't need to access the plugin as soon as you open a supported 'RAW' file the plugin will activate. I use a Nikon camera so my 'RAW' files have a suffix of 'NEF'.
Christine
Rich, thanks for showing me where that file was located :-)
now, the only Q is HOW DO I ACCESS THE PLUGIN
I took the liberty and converted a JPG to a RAW and it totally messed up the image?! why would this happen?
I really dont know what the RAW options do.....
so, I saved it as defalt can someone please explain (in english) what these options do?
thanx,
this is what the image looks like when I converted it into a RAW format?! http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/eek.gif
Raw is generic for unprocesses data from the camera. My 20D saves to CR2 extension. You don't go from JPG to a raw set of data. If you had a raw data file and the plugin with PSCS, you only need to look in the file folder where the file exist. PSCS will recognize the file and open the plugin.
A JPG would be an 8 bit/channel file, or 24 bit combined. Raw data for my camera is 12 bit/channel, and can be saved to 16 bit/channel in PSCS. The additional 4 bits are empty.
The CR2 files from my camera are about 10MB, and the JPEGs are about 3.5MB. The camera takes the raw data and processes it into a JPEG. It isn't reversible.
What your looking for is unprocessed data from the camera (called raw as a generic term). The file extension depends on the camera manufacturer.
If you looked at the Adobe site, they have DGN converter. I think the idea is to convert the many flavors to a single format.
Rich
WOW thanks for the help... :-) that sheds a little light on one....
BJ just remember to have a BIG memory card. raw files average 10mb+ per pic. depending on the resolution you are shooting. my minolta a200 takes raw or raw and jpeg or just jpeg. and i forgot i had it on raw/jpeg and i filled a 512mb card in a heartbeat! what kind of camera you got?
I have a 20D also, and a GIG card at 80x it fills I get 80 pictures from it, and only 6 images on contiuous shooting mode.
My question, I dont shoot raw, but I dont know how to do raw, can someone give me an example of your Raw workFlow... because I dont understand how to do it... Thanks
THATS A REALLY GOOD Q!
i would really like to know as well.......
the camera i " will be getting here soon is a Cannon 20D Im still kind of shopping around trying to find one that will not "break my buget"... what kind U got Mike.S?
another Q that just popped into my head......and a little of the topic, DO any of you subscribe to any of the photoshop magazines which one is your favorate?
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Im still a little confused how to get the RAW settings options to come up in photoshop or do they automatically come up somehow.....
Minolta A200. it isnt a slr. but it is considered a slr type. i can add teleconverter, fisheye lens and filters to the lens. it retails for around 700-800. i didnt need a slr. so this was perfect for what i need.
i dont subscribe to any magazines but do a google search for photoshop tut and forums and you will find 1000's of them out there. if you open a raw file in ps the dialog boxs open automatically so youcan do all your adjustmentsQuote:
Originally posted by BJ_ADAMS:
another Q that just popped into my head......and a little of the topic, DO any of you subscribe to any of the photoshop magazines which one is your favorate?
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Im still a little confused how to get the RAW settings options to come up in photoshop or do they automatically come up somehow.....
set your camera to raw mode and then take your pics and then in ps open the file and you will get all different dialoge boxes. you can adjust every aspect of the pic.Quote:
Originally posted by Inabottle:
I have a 20D also, and a GIG card at 80x it fills I get 80 pictures from it, and only 6 images on contiuous shooting mode.
My question, I dont shoot raw, but I dont know how to do raw, can someone give me an example of your Raw workFlow... because I dont understand how to do it... Thanks
WOW! thanx Mike, What is the MP on your camera?
here is a screen shot of ps with a raw file open. the pic is my dogs paw and is 11.5mb in raw format. once the adjustments are made and i click ok it turns it into a tiff which the file becomes about44mb. then you save it as a jpeg or whatever to get the file size down.
its 8mp. if youdont need the intergagable lens i would highly recommend it that or the canon powerpro shot 1. that is a great camera also. and it is 8mp to.
yeah Im looking for interchangeable lenses......
does your do that?
no it isnt a slr. but it is considered a slr type. i can add teleconverter, fisheye lens and filters to the lens.
SO that window pops up when you open a RAW image in Photoshop automatically? or do you have to enable it some place?
that opens automatically. thats i guess is considered the raw editor.
Rian,
On the 20D, the basic settings don't save to raw format. You need to use the programable modes. So, if you have your camera set to save to JPEG and CR2, in the basic modes you will get JPEG. You can see the various options in the manual. The PS 2.4 plugin supports the 20D.
Rich
in your opinion, which camera would u get? cannon or, Konica Minolta ?
The reason why I went with the cannon is cuz of the lenes BUT, seeing is that you have been playing around with these cameras a little be longer than I have.......
thanks for all the help MIKE!
it depends on what you are doing and wanting to do. slr are a bit more pricey. then you have to buy lens's for it. they are pricey. Rich has the Canon 20d and i am sure he can give 1000 reasons to buy it, just as i can give you just as many to buy a Minolta. My brother in law has the Canon powerpro shot 1 and he swears by it. i take everyday pics mess with some macros and take moon shots. now my moon shots are no where near Richs, wander on over to the non xara gallery and you will see posts there by Rich yself and a cple by Glenn. you can see the differnece in pics. mind you though that they are tweaked dwon form 10mb and 4mb pics to roughly 50-100k. i am going to get a adapter for my camera and a telescope for astronomy photography so then there is another whole world to enter. (no pun intended) http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif go to your nearest camera store and play with the different models. if they are a good store they should let you take pics with them and either email them to you or put on a cd or print them out for you so you can judge what you like better. hope this helps
SLR Cameras (DIGITAL)
I have a 20D kit and I suggest you go with that I bought mine for 1339 at www.buydig.com they have good Prices on the 350DXT (8mp)Kit for 900 dollars with. Nikon is Also Coming out with a D50 6MP camera for 900. The D70s is also coming out and you can prolly get a good Deal on the D70. I suggest the Canon Camrea's because of the 8mp, the 2 extra MP are good for cropping. Difference between Nikon and Canon Digital Camera's Canon have very low Noise at high ISO's
and have ISO 100, while Nikon's lowest is 200. So Canon have cleaner images, whihc most likely wont be noticed unless you get large prints. Canon's new SLR are all 8MP... the 20D is a league of its own, with 5FPS shooting up to 24 pics, 9 point Auto Focus ISO 3200, Mirror Lock up and A solid metal Body. The 350XT, D50, D70s are all on par with eachother. They all start up almost imdediately. 350XT has the 8mp sensor, ISO 100, 1/4000 shutter, 3FPS. D70s 6MP 3FPS, 1/8000 shutter, 1/500 flash sync.
I suggest 350XT if you want to spend under 1000, and the 20D if you want to go all out. But If you dont know if you want the D70 or the 350XT, because they are so alike, Hold them see if you like the feel. You dont want a camera you dont like.
5FPS is a good thing... here is an image with my 20D
Hey Ryan, by chance do you happen to work for a camera store http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
cuz it sounds to me like you know everything about these cameras... I found a canon 20D for for 1200. I can hardly wait to get it.....
hey can you send me an email? I want to ask you more Q's about the canon cameras?
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Be careful with who you buy from... I tried to buy from a store that had it for really cheap, and it was a scam, be sure to check http://www.resellerratings.com/
Buydig, had the best price and most reputable that I found... my e-mail is bloodroach@comcast.net
no i dont work for a store, I just research, and made sure I bought the camera that was right for me
Hello BJ,
For some really in-depth reviews check out: http://www.steves-digicams.com They don't miss a beat!
As for the 20D... From what I have read - you can't go wrong.
Good luck... and enjoy! http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
Rian - nice shot! http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/cool.gif
Also one other thing when Considering going with the 20D/350DXT and the D70s/50D, is the kit Lens that comes with it. The Nikon Camera's come with better lens' than The Canon, THough I believe the new Kit Lens withe the 350DXT is pretty good. I believe Canon has better quality Telephoto Lens' than that of Nikon, I think the Profesional L lens' are Very good, and am buying a 100-400mm L lense with Image Stabalizer, when I get out of bootcamp. To compare these Camera's I suggest going to www.dpreview.com they have in dpeth forums and Extrememly detailed reviews on all these Cameras but the D50, which will be coming out in May I bleieve. As I said before, Hold the two camera's check the menu's see if the layout is to your tastes, and Be sure the ergonomics are good, 20D might be too heave and the 350XT too light. I like the weight of the 20D. Oh and here is a tip, if your at a ritz bring a flash card with you, take some pictures with each camera... bring your card home and compare the pictures. The 20D and 350XT will yeild very similar Photo's, but the D70 will have different Color tone and exposure becuase of the processing. You may notice more noise in the D70 at higher ISO's 800 and above, you wont see any visible noise at ISO 800 on the Canon Cam's. I think the ergonomics is the deal breaker... between the d70 and the 350XT, the 20D is a must if you have the money.