arabesque symbol ... anywhere

Does Designer Pro have any kinds of symbols (like glyphs) in its tool box?

If not, can anyone steer me to some? Googling hasn't been very productive.

I can't think how to explain what I mean, and not finding any images that convey it either. There used to be a nice one in an older version of Adobe Illustrator but I've lost all track of it. And don't think it could be extacted for use anyway.

What I want is something like lineart but with an arabeque-ish shape, so lines but no background.

I like to use them to separate parts of text documents sometimes.

Your Googling skills need help. ;) http://www.linotype.com/145788/arabe...ts-family.html

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Originally Posted by gwpriester

Your Googling skills need help. ;) http://www.linotype.com/145788/arabe...ts-family.html

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Thanks for the input.
About google... Perhaps, but of course that was one of the first things I saw. Its not clear at all if those glyphs can be employed into a Xara document, and I don't need dozens.... just one or two.

I actually have some glyphs in fonts that I already have but see no way to get at them in the Xara interface. I don't mean to say there is no way only that I'm ignorant of them.

Ideal would be an arabesque with no background (transparent) and just the lines of the arabesque... like a small bitmap image.

I actually tried a few found with google (image) but found none with transparent background or one that looked like I could cut it out fairly easily.

Back to your citation a moment... I didn't actually see any there that looked like what I'm after. As I mentioned, I mostly would like them used as separators in some kinds of documents. I mean between paragraphs or sections of a page.

It would need to be able to be stretched, compressed etc at will.

All of those requirements pertain to the symbols in Adobe Illustrator but the arabesque disappeared several versions back.

I thought there might be a `symbols' pkg available for Xara or usable by Xara.

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Originally Posted by HarryPutnam

Thanks for the input.

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Back to your citation a moment... I didn't actually see any there that looked like what I'm after. As I mentioned, I mostly would like them used as separators in some kinds of documents. I mean between paragraphs or sections of a page.

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I let the message get away before I should have.

On your cited page I see two that are at least close to what I'm after.

In the second row, and using the black dots to find them, starting with left most black dot as dot1.

Just to the right of dots 1 and 2 are symbols or glyphs that look pretty close.

hi harry

if they are a font and its installed

type them, and then convert to editable shapes, and then ungroup [twice possibly] - then you can edit out the bits you want....?

{edit - re" I actually have some glyphs in fonts that I already have but see no way to get at them in the Xara interface" }

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Originally Posted by handrawn

hi harry

if they are a font and its installed

type them, and then convert to editable shapes, and then ungroup [twice possibly] - then you can edit out the bits you want....?

{edit - re" I actually have some glyphs in fonts that I already have but see no way to get at them in the Xara interface" }

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I guess that would apply to those in your cited URL as well eh?

Those two I mentioned are better than anything I have on hand.

it was Gary that cited the URL :)

you should be able to do this with any truetype font installed

once you have the font characters converted to editable shape, and ungrouped fully, they are vector shapes just like those you draw in designer

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Originally Posted by handrawn

it was Gary that cited the URL :)

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Gack.... sorry and thanks to you both....

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Originally Posted by handrawn

it was Gary that cited the URL :)

you should be able to do this with any truetype font installed

once you have the font characters converted to editable shape, and ungrouped fully, they are vector shapes just like those you draw in designer

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Before I confuse myself further... the fonts on the cited URL are listed as Opentype.... so are they not `Truetype' then and how does one tell quickly?

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Originally Posted by HarryPutnam

Before I confuse myself further... the fonts on the cited URL are listed as Opentype.... so are they not `Truetype' then and how does one tell quickly?

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Egad... nevermind.... I over looked the extension .TTF on those at the URL

you have the option on the site to download either, but opentype has by and large replaced truetype and is therefore the better option all else being equal, should work just as well

BTW - you have to be in selector tool with the text selected in designer to do the convert to editable shapes - it does not take in text tool

cross posted - yes as long as the extension is TTF all should be well

Works perfectly well with OpenType *.otf fonts, too.