Re: The all new "Xara is inaccurate" thread!
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Originally Posted by
AndFarr
Actually the slight amount of inaccuracy doesn't bother me.
It is, after all, a drawing program, not a cad program.
Since it is a vector drawing program, more accuracy would require more points
and with that more computation time.
Would we all be willing to sacrifice Xara's speed for the needs of a few?
I don't think so.
If you are unhappy with Xara's abilities, go out and find another tool that fits your needs.
Enough said.
- Andfarr
AndFarr,
The point here is that Xara actually creates more points than those necessary to accurately define the result of a boolean operation.
So itīs not a question of computation time nor speed.
This is certainly not a cad program but the bug in question doesnīt touch that field either. As a matter of fact Xara is the only program that doesnīt perform boolean operations correctly. Illustrator, Corel, Serif Draw Plus and Inkscape all perform as expected and those arenīt CAD programs...
Re: The all new "Xara is inaccurate" thread!
Yes, let's all do a continued beat down on Xara for their lack of doing "accurate" booleans.
Or perhaps, if you don't like Xara booleans, don't use them? Give your loyalties elsewhere. Put on your AI or Inkscape T-shirt and parade around the town with boolean superiority.
Let's all put on our Xara is junk software t-shirt and hope they will fall from any increased profits by our constant drum beat of their Boolean sins.
Let's turn off interested in users by showing our behinds and just how petty we can be instead of reporting a bug via official Xara channels, plaster it in International billboards.
Yes, that's the ticket.
People will only be offended by my post because they know it's the truth . :)
Actually, it's good...because I for one will no longer help anyone with a Xara solution or a problem, nor support a positive topic about Xara until the whining stops.
The world is going to end, booleans are running afoul in Xara. boo hoo
Re: The all new "Xara is inaccurate" thread!
Its something people should know about, and if Xara cares about it, they will do something about it and hopefully say something.
If they don't care then that's also something I would like to know about, and I must say I find their silence so far on this issue worrying.
This is quite apart from any semantics about what is and isn't graphic or CAD - that has a certain amount of milage BUT: there remains a serious flaw in xara.
And Xara themselves make great play about it being the only program you'll every need - not in this instance.
I don't think its going to go away.
You want to hide problems or pretend they don't exist? - Gee I sure hope you didn't work in Nuclear Power [:D ]
Re: The all new "Xara is inaccurate" thread!
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Originally Posted by
handrawn
Its something people should know about, and if Xara cares about it, they will do something about it and hopefully say something.
If they don't care then that's also something I would like to know about, and I must say I find their silence so far on this issue worrying.
This is quite apart from any semantics about what is and isn't graphic or CAD - that has a certain amount of milage BUT: there remains a serious flaw in xara.
And Xara themselves make great play about it being the only program you'll every need - not in this instance.
I don't think its going to go away.
You want to hide problems or pretend they don't exist? - Gee I sure hope you didn't work in Nuclear Power [:D ]
Hide problems? Nope. And thanks for the analogy that I participate in cover ups.
I'd say more, but I'm sure I'd be banned for saying it.
Re: The all new "Xara is inaccurate" thread!
I would not let the lack of posts by anyone at Xara Ltd be a worry.
An annoucement about future versions will be made next month according to a post by Charles Moir http://www.talkgraphics.com/showthread.php?t=26650 post #8.
How many other graphic software companies have their CEO posting in a community forum?
No promises as to what the announcement will cover as only Charles and the development team know what will be announced.
Re: The all new "Xara is inaccurate" thread!
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jamesmc
Hide problems? Nope. And thanks for the analogy that I participate in cover ups.
I'd say more, but I'm sure I'd be banned for saying it.
Joke james, as in :D sorry
no offense meant :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by
Soquili
I would not let the lack of posts by anyone at Xara Ltd be a worry.
An annoucement about future versions will be made next month according to a post by Charles Moir
http://www.talkgraphics.com/showthread.php?t=26650 post #8.
How many other graphic software companies have their CEO posting in a community forum?
No promises as to what the announcement will cover as only Charles and the development team know what will be announced.
Ok Bill - thanks for that.
:)
Re: The all new "Xara is inaccurate" thread!
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Originally Posted by
AndFarr
Actually the slight amount of inaccuracy doesn't bother me.
Indeed. There are other people here.
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Originally Posted by
AndFarr
It is, after all, a drawing program, not a cad program.
What does that have to do with it? :confused:
Have you even read the rest of the thread before posting that?
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Originally Posted by
AndFarr
If you are unhappy with Xara's abilities, go out and find another tool that fits your needs.
Enough said.
- Andfarr
Actually, this is the best I can find.
However, being the best does not mean it's perfect. Also it does not mean the user isn't allowed to express any criticism about the program, simply because it's the best and if you don't like it you should look somewhere else.
James, people complain about the inaccurate booleans instead of switching to other programs because they do not want to switch to other software just for boolean operations. Why? Because they (I, at least) think that Xara is the best.
This might look like a flogging party, but it's not. It's an effort by members to get attention on this problem.
Reporting this bug via the official channels is 1 way. But what does the bug description say? I honestly don't know, but I guess it's something like "doing boolean operations with a square and a circle produces extra nodes and straight segments". With an example attached.
--> well now...that certainly says a lot :rolleyes:
Does the bug report state the severity of the bug? As in: how much this limits the user from doing his/her work? Or how much impact it has on your work? No. If someone would read the error report, he'd probably place it on very low priority, cause as we've seen, the bug is only minimal. However, that person does not understand how much this bug affects the community members during their work.
The attention this bug gets on international billboards is equivalent to its impact on the user's work. This is not necessarily reflected by a simple bug report. The only objective thing a bug report tells you is how many people have come across a certain bug, which is 1 way to prioritize bugs and doesn't take into account the impact of the bug.
Or in other words: a bug report is for objectively reporting a bug (doh!), whereas a forum is also for discussion and interaction between users.
Also, please, there's no point in turning this into a drama. Sheesh! :rolleyes:
Re: The all new "Xara is inaccurate" thread!
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The Alien
Indeed. There are other people here.
Also, please, there's no point in turning this into a drama. Sheesh! :rolleyes:
You assess my comments as drama and the counter claims as some sort of heroic effort to point out a bug.
My current path to not help anyone on this forum or post anything positive about Xara is my personal protest.
And with that, you can have no influence whether I should do it or not. It's my choice and there is nothing you can do about it.
Re: The all new "Xara is inaccurate" thread!
This thread has degenerated from it's original purpose.
As most if not all that can be said in a positive direction has been said.
I am locking this thread from further comment.
Please do NOT attempt to continue this discussion in another thread as it will only propogate the current vain of post.
Do not take this as a slight toward anyone, only a means of moderating the forum.