www.gentshaircuts.com
www.moonstoneartstudio.com
www.frankpicozziformayor.com
I use Xara because I know Jack Shit about HTML..and it works well enough for me.
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www.gentshaircuts.com
www.moonstoneartstudio.com
www.frankpicozziformayor.com
I use Xara because I know Jack Shit about HTML..and it works well enough for me.
Hello All, I have developed my website using Xara Web Designer Premium v17. Admittedly I am a little technical but developing a website on my own was a no brainer for me as I wanted to be in control. I developed the following website https://www.mumbaispiceclub.com. It’s a online store that sells Indian Spice Tins for those wishing to find an easy way to cook authentic Indian Food. I found developing the site was quite straight forward and I loved the easy drag and drop features that were available to me. Even setting up the online store was relatively simple and I have saved thousands of pounds on development costs. I would recommend using Xara. I did get some extra help from the one of the best moderators on the forum ACORN. The areas I could not do, he applied his magic and resolved very quickly. Even them it still worked out much cheaper
mitslad, I appreciate the plug. The hard bit was getting ECWID to operate in a Variant with both ECWID & Xara advising it could not be done. I enjoyed the challenge and gained a spice tin in part payment. Bought another as a gift so I can recommend one for Christmas. If you do, mention TG & ACORN.
Acorn
This is where we need to document and have this Ecwid setup shown to people who are confused as to how to setup on this forum. So many times I see new and old users like myself confronting issues with it. Lets pin it somewhere permanent.
Both, I am now in a difficult place.
If I explain my coding and others implement it on their Clients' sites and things go wrong, the Clients lose sales and money.
Who then is to blame? Who would be called on to rectify matters?
In delivering my solution for the Mumbai Spice Club, I invested a lot of time developing, tuning and testing the functionality for a paying client.
I have a living to make and as an independent consultant the time I give to TG is in my gift; supporting others beyond this eats into my time and labour without recompense.
The concept I developed is simple and ought to have been addressed by Xara when it delivered Variants. It can be employed more generally with other IFRAME embedding (Placeholders) so I would suggest looking to Xara in the first instance; the approach is a solution to a poor implementation. I seem to do all the running in raising Bugs, getting nowhere and subsequently having to fix it myself; TG is a great platform when others engage but that is down to a select few.
The approach is also quite specific for the Mumbai Spice Club environment and therefore no one could easily undertake modifications without knowledge of the target website.
I could refactor the code but that takes time. I am willing to take on bespoke commissions where I can at least offer a warranty for the work.
Acorn
Point taken Acorn. Do not raise your blood pressure.
Thanks, Acorn for the additional information.
I didn't realize it was a coding solution, I thought you found a way to work within the standard products. I am positively impressed that you got it working (but not surprised by your expertise) and you are correct that Xara should address the issue. It is a variant issue, not just Ecwid.
I respect you not wanting to share a custom coding project and I actually wouldn't want to implement it. I found a much easier solution by using another web development platform. Having been forced to learn another tool I now am doing all new projects with the new tool and moving some Xara sites over as need arises. But a new web tool doesn't change that I use Xara almost daily for graphic and photo needs.
Again, thanks for the additional explanation. Your feedback is always a gem.
Cheers, but isn't it sad that we have a great product ruining by blinkered vision and poor design specification.
Variants are great but a solution this is behind the curve.
The internet is getting faster.
Lazy-loading or pre-caching is far easier to implement.
So the premise of the code of Main and Variants being bundled together in one HTML file per page is Purgatory.
You cannot publish a Main as a Conventional site and any Variant as a Supersite.
I can and do but, again, I have written code to switch from one site to another but the pain is having to keep factoring out the Variants as their own design file.
The same can be argued for Transition Supersites.
Xara saw the opportunity to mash together the code for Presentations and invented Supersites.
Linking to external resources...
Rotated Text as an IMAGE...
No native integration for SVG...
Acorn
You are correct. If they want to stay in the web development world they need to make some changes. But I don't believe they want to spend any effort on anything other than the cloud. The desktop products are cash cows and they will ride them till they completely die. Luckily Designer Pro X without new enhancements or the worthless update service still work fine for my needs. I will use it till Windows updates break it.
hahahahahahahaha! Reminds me of a program called The Print Shop - still around but my version 23 is 1,000x better than their current boring version. I get errors all the time trying to run it from windows saying it will not work properly. Luckily it still does open if I run as admin and not all features of it work but most do and I still use it. I know one day tho windows will just fail to open it lol
Here's something to keep you amused and entertained:
- https://publicwww.com/websites/%22Xara+HTML+filter+v.9%22/ - 31,484 initial web pages; https://publicwww.com/websites/%22Xa...2+depth%3Aall/ - total site pages - 147,451
- https://publicwww.com/websites/%22Xa...filter+v.8%22/ - 23,764 web pages
- https://publicwww.com/websites/%22Xa...filter+v.7%22/ - 7,437 web pages
- https://publicwww.com/websites/%22Xa...filter+v.6%22/ - 6,638 web pages
- https://publicwww.com/websites/%22Xa...filter+v.5%22/ - 5,549 web pages; https://publicwww.com/websites/%22Xa...2+depth%3Aall/ - total site pages - 29,342
- Overall Xara site pages - 437,548 with https://publicwww.com/websites/%22Xa...2+depth%3Aall/ (88,921 with https://publicwww.com/websites/%22Xara+HTML+filter+v%22).
It would appear 5-6 pages to a site the the standard coin...
Perhaps Xara Desktop application designers do upgrade and refresh their sites.
Most sites appear not to have SSH (just http://) so I might assume personal, hobby and community sites.
Acorn
Here's mine with a few of Acorn's tricks and specials included https://initiostar.co.uk/ :)
still a work in progress but pretty nice if I do not sayso myself...
https://steampunkdelta8.com
Thanks :)
One thing that gets me with Xara, even tho I am a Pro at web design (Think used to use Dreamweaver and notepad plus lol) - I LOVE how it has separate mobile versions so I can fully control how the mobile looks not just code in stuff and hope mobile browsers make it look nice based on my code lol.
Here is still my old site build in 2016 and needs now a revision. But I like the clean design and think I stay with it. Only the content need to be renewed.
https://medienagentur-franta.de
I like the site as well. =D>
Thanks Boy.
Got one. Www.Billwood.ca
Excuse the page length. Xaras working in that problem.
-Bill
Nice work. Here is a few I did, the ones I can not show is due to clients request.
www.minirinx.com
www.clearsoundhearing.ca
@Bill Thanks. It is just a button I made and made it transparent. I put it on the edge of the screen and used web sticky technique.
my last page
It is in "production" ... ideas are accepted
https://www.vendetucocheconcargas.co..._xr_page_index
of the client ...... but he has left me lying ...
The web page shows no company office or traditional land-line or company identifier and several of the promises would be illegal in the UK.
Personally I would have nothing to do with a client making these claims and I would be concerned that you will be paid and possibly implicated in wrong-doing.
There are a lot of problems with the promises made by your client that makes me wonder if this is a scam.
Be careful.
Google translatión
Thank you very much for the advice...
I do not know in the UK, here, the market for buying and selling "cars with debts" is a mafia.
None of the many "companies in the sector" show their data .... It is a mafia that buys cars from people with problems, and then imports them ... and sells it to the first naive ..
I will try to sell the page to one of the "legal" ones ...
It showed the page to share that with very simple effects you can "dress" a page and look "pretty good" ...
So there is no actual client - you made this as an example?
I am shocked that you imagine that this page would be in any way appropriate to a bona-fide company and is a good example to show to potential clients if as you say, and I suspected, only crooks would use it.
Goole translation
I knew him and I made him the page (the one with the root, without / in the url: it's very "crappy") for free ... by commitment ...
When things started to go well for him, he asked me to do it for him, the better .....
He wanted to pay € 200 ...
before I give it to his competition ......
["I'm surprised you think your page is appropriate for a serious business"
Google tells me what it said ...
:-(
You say it by "the official data"? ]
I don't think we are communicating well and I think I don't want to hear any more details about this, so no more from me on this subject.
Xara is not that hard to use, it's inexpensive, lots of tutorials, and the results can be great on the webpage given the designer.
None of which addresses the Thread's request.
I can agree that the XDAs are easy to use. They, however, need lots of care and understanding to deliver clean and worthwhile designs.
Ultimately, an XDA designer is not coding but still has to be aware of the underlying web technology.
Throwing gizmos and widgets onto a page does not necessarily inspire the viewer to linger.
Acorn
So back to the original post. Show me a nice website produced with Xara.
Have we answered your question @rsrsrs?
One of my favourites which I bookmark for simplicity is http://ipauland.com/index.html#about
I constantly remind myself of what Gary Priester posted a long time ago. Clean, simple, minimal text.
I try to produce that, but still abide with clients wishes.
Some people want so much text. Heavens! Produce a feeling with a theme for web, and leave print for newsletters.
A simple website created in Xara including animation.
https://autoplosinaplzen.cz/
I put a lot of work into this one: https://d-aesthetics.ch/aesthetik.htm // https://d-aesthetics.ch/EN/beauty.htm.
Hover over the image under BEHANDLUNGSZONEN/TREATMENT AREAS.
Now under client control but as of today looks as I delivered.
Acorn