Re: I’m a Windows user, so why do I care?
It doesn't mean that open source software has to be free - there are many companies out there who develop for Linux using open source tools and charging good money for it.
Open source means you have to document/publish the parts you've created with the GPL tools and libraries, but **not** your core development.
This means that Adobe or MS wouldn't be able to grab the core code from Xara, just the parts that have been developed by open source coders. But if they do, they have to publish their code as well - which they won't do.
I've alway said: port Xara for Linux, there is a gap, a niche, which needs to be filled, so that Xara can benefit from a new boom like Corel in past times when many PC vendors packed Corel into their bags...
This is very important, because the new Windows - Vista - is so demanding on hardware, that many users will switch to another system which can be run on their 'outdated' systems - Linux.
Today the networks cover the planet, tomorrow we will see a much tighter integration in everyday uses. The best operating system to handle this future is - you've guessed it - Linux, because it was born as a network computing system, not as a standalone system like Windows.
Have you installed Linux lately? Or did you ever ask yourself 'do I **really** need Windows'?
Just one small comparison:
Install Windows XP SP2 on a machine with 1 GB RAM, boot it and start some small apps. Available RAM will go down to some 540 MB.
Install SuSE 9.3 on the same machine, start a bunch of apps, and your RAM is still at more than 800 MB free - without even using the swap disk (or virtual memory as it's called in Windows).
But there is more. Grab a SuSE or any other Linux flavor for some 60 - 80 US$/Euro, and you already have a DVD player, DVD ripper, burner, FTP client, office suite, OpenGL games etc in the installed package. The standard versions come with some 1.800 tools and applications, the pro versions with some 4.000.
BTW, MS won't support OpenGL anymore - Vista can't handle it. Reason: though OpenGL is a global standard, MS wants to implement its own DirectX stuff...
I would't mind if Xara would charge the same amount for any platform - this will help the development! OK, maybe they offer a rebate if you purchase a version for Windos **and** Linux, but that's something of the future...
I can't wait to run Xara on my Linux system. And I'm desperately looking to avoid Windows Vista - non of my excellent systems is powerful enough for that OS.
:D
Re: I知 a Windows user, so why do I care?
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Originally Posted by jens g.r. benthien
Today the networks cover the planet, tomorrow we will see a much tighter integration in everyday uses. The best operating system to handle this future is - you've guessed it - Linux, because it was born as a network computing system, not as a standalone system like Windows.
With the danger of moving too far off-topic, the Windows NT series of operating systems (NT, 2000, XP and the upcoming Vista) were all designed around networking.
Coming back on topic - maybe my dream of running Xara on a Powerbook may yet come true! (Just have to find money for the powerbook now)
Re: I知 a Windows user, so why do I care?
Hey Jens,
That's really sad about the Open GL info you imparted. Being in the 3D ring now I don't think that's going to go over very well for many of the apps out there that make excellent use of this technology!! Sigh...... M$ is always throwing a wrench into the works of others!!
Re: I知 a Windows user, so why do I care?
Hi,
haven't been around for a long while ... and only just happened across the wonderful news! My dream is coming true :) :)
I'll be transitioning my machines away from Windows over the next year, to Linux, and will also get a Mac.
To have the best graphics programme available for both my dream OSes ... is just too wonderful!
I love Xara - I love Linux - and I know I will love the Mac platform too.
Gee, life is looking really good right now :D
Re: I知 a Windows user, so why do I care?
Hey Jens, if I switch to linux, how do I switch all my software? Adobe products for windows don't work with linux, I have to get a different copy.
So it's all about $$$$ correct me if I'm wrong.
Re: I知 a Windows user, so why do I care?
I don't think Adobe is quite there with support for Linux! I think Adobe Acrobat or just the Reader is there and I think I read somewhere that they were "thinking" about embracing Linux more fully but why should they, they have the market cornered with the Windows users.
I have to admit I use PS-CS for MOST of my paint and image editing (with the exception of Xara X and Irfanview for smaller quicky projects). Xara Xtreme will probably win me over for the image editing with it's ability now to support filters and plugins as well as Open Source so all the other goodies that I want to plug in to it will be along eventually!!
Re: I知 a Windows user, so why do I care?
Hmmmm. I just keep thinking about projects like Gobe Productive, Mozilla, Interbase, Ingres et al. Here's an interesting post: http://www.dribin.org/dave/blog/arch...urce_failures/
I'm going to be very interested to read this thread again in 2007 :)
Re: I知 a Windows user, so why do I care?
On windows 2000 pro with 1 gig of ram, 880 meg also.
here.
Re: I’m a Windows user, so why do I care?
@Availor
Quote:
Hey Jens, if I switch to linux, how do I switch all my software? Adobe products for windows don't work with linux, I have to get a different copy. So it's all about $$$$ correct me if I'm wrong.
If you love Adobe and can't live without it, stick with Windows.
Linux does incorporate the EPS and PostScript format from scratch, so there is no need for Acrobat. Any printer output is generated from EPS or PostScript - a truly professional solution.
Received another good new yesterday: Cinema 4D is now available for Linux too.
And there will be many others to follow soon...
Re: I’m a Windows user, so why do I care?
If you want to dig deeper into the OpenGL issue with Vista, read this and check the links:
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There has been a discussion on this at tweakers.net at
http://www.tweakers.net/nieuws/38389
Microsoft is not 'killing opengl'. The Vista gui will be 3d accellerated using direct3d and because only one api can access the 3d hardware at a time, the only possible solution is to translate the opengl api to direct3d. This scheme is only needed for running opengl applications in a window. When running apps in fullscreen, the direct3d desktop will be switched off and opengl will operate at full speed as usual. If you need full speed opengl in a window, then you can simply switch back to a classic 2d desktop. (which I would do anyway if ever using vista..)
Since the direct3d accellerated desktop is THE core feature of Vista, your chances of getting it removed from the final are very slim..
Joost.
Hylke Donker writes:
>Hello,
>As most of you might now, Windows Vista is putting a layer between
>OpenGL and the video-card, i'm sending this email for people that
>didn't know this, and are willing to take action.
>About that layer,
>it layer translates OpenGL commands into Direct3D and Direct X
>calls.
>The consequence of that, is that OpenGL will get up to 50 % slower,
>and the OpenGL ARB can't just add another feature to OpenGL because
>Direct3D most probably doesn't support it, and Windows Vista sticks
>with OpenGL 1.4(although OpenGL 2.0 is already released).
>What Microsoft is basicly doing is killing OpenGL.
>What has OpenGL todo with Linux you might ask, when OpenGL is as
>dead as meat, there's no longer a good (cross-platform) API for
>linux and Mac OSX(and some other unix variants) for 3D graphics
>development.
>So I'm thinking this is yet another trick from Microsoft to distract
>people to other operating systems(such as Linux).
>Because Windows Vista is still beta, you can still take action in
>the hope that they will remove the feature(?) from the official
>release.
>You can do this by sending an email to your GPU manufactor.
>NVIDIA: cevenden<_at_>ati<_dot_>com
>ATI: dperez<_at_>nvidia<_dot_>com
>I hope i've inspired some people to take actions, just like me(by
>sending an email to your GPU manufactor).
>Hylke
>
>
>Im programmed to program.
>
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