Thanks Anas. This morning I manage to strangle a couple of pixies or whatever and saw how the technique works. Those dead pixies floating around up there are a bit annoying to say the least but it was just a first time effort. I guess the next time I should keep them farther away from the image. However I think hell will be frozen three times over before I can ever create something as good as you or Mike but what interest me the most is not creating but trying to learn the technical techniques of creating since you don't need talent for this part, kiind of like a kid tearing apart a watch:D.....frank
edit......okay, playing with strangling the pixies in the ripple animation. If I'm luck I'll make everybody viewing it seasick......did I mention I'm opening an online pharacy with the special of the day gravel. Looks like the only option that x3d is missing is a shotgun to blow those little devils to smitherins.........encore frank