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Re: Design a Logo for XaRT
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chasventre
Thanks Gary,
Took your advice and added words that might work for registry tool logo are;
strong
precise
confidence
bold
trustworthy
keys to the castle
penetrate
multifunctional
guards
guided
dependable
Hi chasventre—
Your list is good, however, it inevitably leads to a vault, and although the dial you drew is very, very good and advanced, I'm not sure the "gestalt" of XaRT is so much a guardian as it opens doors. It is enabling, and a safe suggests power, but it also suggests disabling (people from opening something). I'd prefer to see a green light over a red one as symbols go.
You give so much thought before you draw something, chasventre, that I'd like to see what you can imagine with: "Permissions, enabling, security, power, and options" as key ideas.
My Best,
Gary
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Something without gears and cogs.
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It's clean, will work at small sizes, and the "nugget", graphically, is easy to figure out. The Xara part is segmented from the Registry Tool part by your use of colours.
Nice.
-g
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I worked on this design a little more, so here are 3 more versions.
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Rik beat me to it on the design :D only difference is the RT fill, just to emphasize Registry Tool in the second image.
Stygg.
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Originally Posted by
Gare
Hi chasventre—
Your list is good, however, it inevitably leads to a vault, and although the dial you drew is very, very good and advanced, I'm not sure the "gestalt" of XaRT is so much a guardian as it opens doors. It is enabling, and a safe suggests power, but it also suggests disabling (people from opening something). I'd prefer to see a green light over a red one as symbols go.
You give so much thought before you draw something, chasventre, that I'd like to see what you can imagine with: "Permissions, enabling, security, power, and options" as key ideas.
My Best,
Gary
OK, One more try using;
Permission, enabling, security and power!
How about a dolphin jumping from closed to opened folder with power?
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It's interesting, and I truly mean it in a positive way.
I'm not here to say "no" all the time, but rather to advise.
I see great improvement and better focus in your design here than before.
I leave it up to other members to comment on it: I already have, I've called it interesting.
My Best,
Gary
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This represents my take on the ideas of other people who have posted.
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(Three of the four options are switched on :))
-g
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@Gary,
I would place the red light (off) over the "a" as then the green lights (on) key into your green for the X R T letters.
Mike
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Good idea, but my render is just food for thought here, Mike. Other members have already out-thought me on this one!
My Best,
Gary
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Oh, Larry!
See this opportunity you missed?
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-g
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Yes I guess so. I did reposition the check mark though. So here is the revision.
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I really like this for the Icon
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Gare
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You said the magic word, and it's yours, Grace.
"Ours", actually. :)
Would anyone like to spin this into a full-blown logo? Using the colors, adding text and so on?
-g
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For what it's worth, here's my take on it.
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Check mark + X + Checkbox integrated together. Did the bottom right as though it is stepping out.
Regards,
mindseye.
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That is very, very close, mindseye.
I'd like to see the end (the right side) of the checkmark a little taller, sort of like the X in Xara's previous logo, just to force it, make it a touch more obvious.
-g
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As requested - just about spot on with the Xara original from top right to bottom left.
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mindseye.
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Of the current options, I like mindseye's the best. Having now seen it, hard to imagine one better than this.
Mike
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I think we are on the right track now. But, any colour but blue please. XaReg and XaReg2 are blue.
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@mwenz -
Much appreciated. Just took what was at hand from others "examples-advice" and added some of mine. I'm sure ,between everyone, we have yet to see and will create THE ONE. ;)
@Grace - Tried to stick with the Xara colors for the association factor. What colors would you like to see if I may ask?
mindseye.
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Here is a template of what I think Xart will look like. This would be the about screen. Feel free to play with it and come up with a nice "splash/about" scrren. I know this is blue, but that can be changed.
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Oh Grace,
We have a whole world of designers to draw on, lets not limit ourselves to a bare-bones UX. I'm sure someone here (or more likely everyone working together) can come up with something that is functional, even function enhancing and that looks great. Xara helps artists create great art, and I think their tools should be beautiful as well.
Maybe if you can give the designers some idea of the process the user goes through to:
- discover what the program does
- find out can be changed,
- how they choose/select/signal to you that a change is requested ( can a user make more than one change at a time ie check a bunch of boxes and hit submit),
- what kind of feed back they can get to confirm what they are about or will do?
- how they exit the program
- what kind of warnings or advisories they might get
- etc.
I'm going to open a new thread for the app UX. Maybe you can give us a list of the things you need to show and what feedback you need to get from the user to make anything happen.
Lets really work our imaginations here. Does the application frame, chrome interface even have to be a rectangle?
As for colors, Greens, Golds, Oranges could be good. Even for the most common kind of color blind users they won't turn to blue.
http://www.visibone.com/colorblind/ Great resource.
http://www.usability.gov/articles/newsletter/pubs/022010new.html#ColorsthatWorktheBest
I've copied this post to the new UX Thread, Interface Design and UX Thread - How our App Looks
If you are posting about UX design post there. Logo and logo colors post in this thread.
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very cool mindseye. I like that a lot.
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First of all this will be a standard Windows app, so users are used to things like menus and tabbed sheets. The convention for menus is pretty fixed, usually FILES first (this contains an exit option) and HELP last (the about box would be in help). Newer interfaces use the tabs options and both XaReg and XaReg2 use them. Both divided the options into what are logical groups. Quite honestly I doubt that we can improve much on the format of XaReg2, but I am open t0 suggestions. Looking at XaREg2 will give you a pretty good idea as to what can be changed. We will be publishing a document fairly soon that will spell out the registry options that we are planning on allowing changes to.
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I experimented with the colors of this design. It is my feeling that the design is so strong that it doesn't really need any. I did not look at a different font for the text line "Xara Registry Tool" to see if something would work better at a smaller size than what I have used trying to reproduce mindseye's design. I looked at a circle instead of a square too, but that just did not work, at least not without a radical re-design.
Therefore here are a few of my color experiments attempting to not use blue.
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Thank you Larry...
I will upload the .xar file/fonts for all to play with.
The tagline is indeed an after thought, meaning, I didn't put a lot of thought there.. Just took the tagline and laid it in.
I should have some time to play with the GUI as well.. Do you guys have a flow chart of any kind? OR, can I just get the gist of it from XaReg2?
I d-loaded yours grace. Wondering about the inner workings.. I'll have a closer study with XR2 and see what I can contribute.
Love this stuff.. this is what I do everyday. All types of marketing collateral & GUI for web stuff. It's good to get paid to play.
Appreciate you guys letting me play here as well. ;)
mindseye.
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BTW Larry, I'm feeling on the red, but I'm partial to it so probably biased. ;)
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mindseye
...Do you guys have a flow chart of any kind? OR, can I just get the gist of it from XaReg2?
I d-loaded yours grace. Wondering about the inner workings.. I'll have a closer study with XR2 and see what I can contribute...
Careful! XaReg2 (2.1) is copyrighted.
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@Grace—
I think it's not the best thing for a creative person to do, to avoid "blue" just because it's being used on XaReg!
The reason WHY John and Steve use blue is for product association, but here's the deal: Xara's splash screen no longer uses the same blue as it did in Xtreme version 5, and the splash screen designers have not stuck to any particular shade or hue of blue, look:
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I detested version 7's splash screen so vehemently that I made my own bmp and substituted it. And guess what? I didn't use the same color blue as The Xara Group does, but perceptually there's some sort of relationship, isn't there?
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I've used a color schemer that Frances and I really like called GenoPal and I've included four color palettes in the attached document. Basically, you can't go wrong if you choose a color and then a tint of it for the complementary color, or just pick 2 colors and the contrast will be an intriguing one. GenoPal uses a patneted algorithm that is NOT based on the traditional color opposites and complements.
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Mindseye, sorry for the hasty trace of your design!
And I'd love to see how the colours can be used in both the UX and the splash screen.
My Best,
Gary
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"Careful! XaReg2 (2.1) is copyrighted."
TY, Gotcha. ;)
"Mindseye, sorry for the hasty trace of your design!"
No worries, apologies for not getting the source file in sooner. Friday and all.
Attached - Two pages, one punched, and one not.
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mindseye.
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Very nice choice of font for the subordinate text, mindseye.
Open Sans link
As long as we're gathering free and open source fonts, Adobe offers Source Sans
HERE
I could have sworn you used Frutiger!
My Best,
Gary
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"I could have sworn you used Frutiger!"
Changed it up at the last.
Wasn't trying to throw you off.. ;)
mindseye.
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The developers are ready to start "playing", could we ask you to create an icon and logo from this design, preferably with named colours. We are going to go with Riks page design that is red and black. My thought s for the Icon are a black X with a red tick.
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mindseye
As requested - just about spot on with the Xara original from top right to bottom left.
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mindseye.
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I think we need to ask mindseye to rework the logo above, Grace.
I gave it a try, and it's not working for me, but perhaps someone can riff on the general concept.
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Now, it's gotta work down to 32 x 32, and probably 16 x 16 for file folders, so simplicity is key.
-g
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I'll give it a go... been down with a hard drive crash.
Don't forget, anyone else that want to give it a run, the source file is here:
http://www.talkgraphics.com/attachme...7&d=1368811548
Regards,
mindseye.
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I think this will look ok with a green check
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I played around with some harmonious colour schemes and came up with this. I created a set of named colours as well. I've attached a .xar file that also contains a sample interface using the same named colours (I'll post an image of the UI in the other thread)
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Thanks Francis, I think we are really getting there.
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angelize
I played around with some harmonious colour schemes and came up with this. I created a set of named colours as well. I've attached a .xar file that also contains a sample interface using the same named colours (I'll post an image of the UI in the other thread)