Very nice, Larry. Hard to see the link with the original picture, but I guess that's true for every kaleidosocope.
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Very nice, Larry. Hard to see the link with the original picture, but I guess that's true for every kaleidosocope.
Hello Larry,
Hey, you're making some real headway!
That looks quite kaleidoscopic...
Peace
James
Thanks Guy, and James. This was made from the same image as the previous one using the kaleidoscope image put together by ShapeShifter. It is my desire to keep this a community project and build from the work of others. Therefore if anyone has any suggestions on where to go from here or what you may like or dislike let me know. When I get to my computer I'll remove that big mask so you con see how this thing works. i am still hoping that someone will get involved and claim the title of Kaleidoscope Master because Rik has kindly designed certificate to be presented to that person and signed by me. Therefore I would rather someone on this forum other then me claim the prize.
This is the kaleidoscop pattern made by ShapeShifter from the origional Tractor and shed image. Don't ask me why I didn't use the entire image instead of a rectangular part of it because I don't know. I guess at the time I thought it was the thing to do.
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Here is my animation without the masks
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Xara file fot you to use and make any improvements or as the basis for further work.
Maybe use more frames and rotate some I don't know yet. Oh I almost forgot there are 4 rectangles all 50% transparency. At least that's the way this one is.
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Would you like to have your name on this Certificate of honor?
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Here is another one with some rotation added. Still needs some work and I would rather these last couple were gif's. Anyone know If they can be converted and how to do it? As for me I think I'm about finished with this project and about to move on to something else. I don't know though, it's been fun.
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Helped by Shapeshifters design and certainly inspired by the relentless efforts of Larry, I gave it another go.
Here's the result :
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This was supposed to be an animated gif ...
I'll try with a flash file... but that's nearly 12 mb and the limit of the forum is 5...
Some work to do to make it smaller....
this is it :
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That's great guy. how did you do it?
It's all done in XDP7. This is how (I hope it makes sense - if not, just ask for clarification :).
- I made a triangle with 30° downward pointing angle (like shapeshifter did, but smaller)
- clipview of the tractor picture (leaving enough room to turn the picture around)
- make live copy and keep the original aside
- copy the live copy, and flip both horizontal and vertical so both triangles are adjacent
- take both - rotate around bottom point over 60° and copy (right click) - repeat until full hexagon
- copy hexagon 6 times until desired shape - group
- make bitmap copy
Then comes the "zen-part" : (1) rotate the picture of the tractor inside the clipview over 5° around the sharpest edge (rotation bulls-eye at the point of the triangle)
(2) make bitmap copy of shape
repeat last 2 steps 71 times, ending up at (but not including) the start position.
With the 72 bitmaps make an animation
Wow, thanks for that explanation Guy, your efforts put mine to shame.
Surely, the Kaleidoscope in Post #47 is right up there, as a winner of the first certificate?!
That's what I call a Kaleidoscope and I don't even know how to do one!
Well, that' my opinion but Larry is the ultimate decision maker and I don't know when this exercise finishes.
So, if you want to be presented with a certificate, then be quick and have a go at your Kaleidoscope!
Was a tongue-in-cheek, rhetorical, - definitely not to be taken seriously ;)
I have decided that Guy is definitely the winner of the Kaleidoscope competition and will be awarded the 1st certificate of honor; I am just awaiting a reply from him as to how he would like his name to appear on the certificate
However since I had not set a deadline for submissions, I will leave this thread open for one month. So if anyone else wants to contribute a kaleidoscope animation but have not yet finished it you still can, and compete for a second certificate.
With that said the deadline for further submissions will be Sept. 19th. 2011 at which time (assuming there are other submissions) we will have a poll and a second certificate will be awarded. I hope this in no way takes the honor away from Guy.
Does this sound fair to everyone?
Now it is my honor to proudly name Guy (guyke) as the Master of the Xara Kaleidoscope and recipient of the first certificate of honor for his outstanding contribution.
Well done Guy!
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Thank you everybody. I feel truly honoured, but this was a community project and I'm only part of that community. I learned a lot on the way to my final design: Larry showing his designs that didn't satisfy him, but gave me an idea of what he was after; Shapeshifter's straightforward method of turning a triangle into a kaleidoscopic image; Rik and his humour in designing the cetificate; and other contributions along the way.
In fact what I'm trying to say is that I really love this forum because of the people involved: if you need help, you will get it (and fast !), if you need a laugh you can get that too.
Well done Guy.!
Q: Do you do requests? ;)
This is what I have been tring to accompolish. This was from Psaumure. Am hoping he will post his secret on how to do it.
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I'm sure that Kaleidoscope should have a 'Health Warning' attached to it?!!! ;))
Yes, Paul's version is so good it's trippy.
If I were guessing the main element of Paul's strategy, it would be using a clipping mask via Clip View. I am curious. I hope he explains...
See... your perseverance via Paul paid off.
Peace
James
Oops sorry Rik. Just don't get Mr.Attachment 83868 involved.
James it appears you were rigtht. See this thread http://www.talkgraphics.com/showthre...ramic-TV/page3 for Pauls explanation. Thank you Paul
Rik you are on the verge of getting a nickname, I just don't know what yet. Maybe something like lumpy or knothead. I'll think on that for awhile.
This is the last one I did, I haven't tried Paul's method yet. I sort of like this one except for when it opens to a black rectangle before repeating.
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Well Wizard509, I could have just posted the kaleidoscope sample here. I put together a sample using shape shifters file with the tractor image. I basically used the same technique that I described in the panoramic TV thread. I added an additional rotating shape and a little transparency to get this effect. Based on what I am seeing, I think this is what you're looking for. You still need to come up with the shape that contains artwork from all the participants. This shape is just made up of the original sample tractor image. This is just a quick sample, but you can tweak it to suit your needs.
I hope this helps,
Paul
Where will this be posted when it is complete?
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Hello Larry,
I guessed right based on my comment from message #27, "Are there active layer masks that can exist for each layer? It seems this would be necessary in order to make it work."
Based on thinking that it was the ONLY way to make it work, I felt it had to be ClipView.
Kudos to Paul for taking the time to make it work and achieve something "artworthy".
One note... In a real kaleidoscope, there is some radial movement (since the bottom is being turned). In Paul's example, with the images coming from the outside, straight to the center, it doesn't quite look right. I think that because of this, Paul came up with the latest version, which adds some radial element by spinning the overlaying shape. I think that if you take the basic ClipView idea and instead of making the animated sections go straight, but also have some rotational element, you will pretty much exactly emulate that kaleidoscope that you were going for...
At any rate, it's all pretty cool. Take Xara and then try to take it further. ;)
Great job, Larry, Paul, and all who worked on getting to the bottom of this!
Peace
James
Thank you Paul, that is awsome.I can't wait to give it a try. I hope I can do half as well.
EDIT: "Where will this be posted when it is complete?" This thread would be great Paul.
I don't know what else you plan but it looks complete to me.
Hello Larry,
I built a kaleidoscopic anim, using the ClipView idea... then did a couple more... I hope you like them!
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James
Good work James. Yes, I like them.
Since you liked 'em, Larry :) , how about 2 more...
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(4 MB) Made w/ Frances' Seaweed pic
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I like both of those too James, awsome. But you better careful cause we don't want lumpy to fall into his monitor again.
Great work James, they look great. Larry, I was just wondering where it was going to be posted when it was finished so that I could see the final results. Are you still going to incorporate an image from the different artists for the main piece? I think that will really make a cool looking kaleidoscope. I'm glad that I was able to help,
Paul
Thanks Larry and Paul!
Re: "But you better careful cause we don't want lumpy to fall into his monitor again."
But the knots on his head were adding some symmetry! ;)
Peace
James
Paul it seems like the art gallery would be a good place to post the final, posting in this thread first of course.
As far as incorporating images into the final piece, that is a good idea.
So far there haven't been many. ShapeShifter,Guy,You,James, and possibly me. I know Lumpy wants to get in on this but so far has not. Rik has made a tremendous contribution though by designing the certificate.
As far as where the final will be posted, I am open for suggestions.
I was working on a kaleidoscope yesterday but I'm doing something wrong cause I just couldn't get it to work. Oh well... I'm going to try again in a few minutes.
I got one done using Paul's method. So here it is. Not the tractor however.
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Looks good, Larry :)
I decided to try another one too...
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It moves a little too fast in places, but it's still kinda trippy.
Peace
James