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Re: September 2014 Tips and Tricks - Creating illustrations With Only Extrudes
I think I like the one with the reflection, stygg.
The reflections appears to be in front of the lens, though.
So, you might want to select the lens and bring it to the front, (in front of the reflection).
Very nice job on all three, by the way.
Is the multi-coloured one for a specialised market?!
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Rik
I think I like the one with the reflection, stygg.
The reflections appears to be in front of the lens, though.
So, you might want to select the lens and bring it to the front, (in front of the reflection).
Very nice job on all three, by the way.
Is the multi-coloured one for a specialised market?!
Thanks for the comments Rik and you were right, I had forgot to bring the Lens to the front :o The multi-coloured one, well it seems everybody wants colours and stand out in a crowd, no good for bird photography :D
Seriously though Rik I just wanted to try colours and masks to see the results, inquisitive! I do all tuts. and T&T to the best of my ability seriously and when done, see what else can be done. If you feel offended by the muti-coloured ones then please remove them.
Stygg
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Re: September 2014 Tips and Tricks - Creating illustrations With Only Extrudes
That is EXCELLENT, stygg.
Why on earth would I be offended by what you've done.
All I wanted to show was how you can make a very realistic lens, by just using the 3D tool.
I thin it's far easier than any other method, I think!
You've used the tutorial to make the lens.
The colours are entirely up to you (the creator).
In fact, there's nothing stopping you from designing your own lens, with as many or as few elements as you want.
And. Yes. In any colour you want!
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Re: September 2014 Tips and Tricks - Creating illustrations With Only Extrudes
Thanks for that Rik, I thought you thought I was being dis-respectful adding colours and detracting from a really great tips and tricks by you.
Stygg
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by just using the 3D tool.
I thin it's far easier than any other method, I think!
For me the magic of the Extrude tool is the same that faster can create something than with other tools. Because no need to draw line segments one by one, 'just' extrude.
Probably a lot of experimenting yet which kind of 'materials' can be mixed out with the lights, that is sure metal or plastic possible, also wood and who knows what else yet. But without drawing around the shapes and applying bitmap fill, so in the spirit of With Only Extrudes and With Only Xara Fills & Transparencies :D
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Totally agree with all you have said csehz, I like the all the combinations you can come up with using the extrude tool, applying shapes with bitmap fills and using the colour change and masks. It's the nearest thing to 3D without having to learn a completely new 3D programme at which I've tried and I'm useless at it. :D
Here's my Bird photograhers Camera and Lens, suitably camouflaged. A twitcher by the way is a bird watcher.
Stygg
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Well, stygg. I'd have to say, that's different!
Though the camouflaged parts look rather flat.
I think the light and shading needs to be applied to those parts.
And having seen your different colours, I wondered what a red lens would look like?!
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Re: September 2014 Tips and Tricks - Creating illustrations With Only Extrudes
I agree Rik it does need light and shade, I'll work on that tomorrow. That red lens looks absolutely great Rik, will keep that with my lens collection, thanks for posting.
Stygg
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Re: September 2014 Tips and Tricks - Creating illustrations With Only Extrudes
That red edition probably was never released in the real world but looks really real.. Congratulations Rik.
Also interesting option can be to apply named colors at extrudes, dropping them to the lights, according to my experience it works however sometimes only if the objects are selected and the selected tool is the Extrude tool actually. Not sure on what that depends on
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This is a little off-topic: In 1995, Adobe released a program they had acquired (IOW, Adobe's engineers didn't develop it, like they didn't develop Illustrator or Photoshop originally) called Dimensions. Adobe Dimensions could not only extrude a profile, it could also revolve it at any number orf degrees, so if you drew a half circle, and revolved the shape around the straight side by, say 270 degrees, you'd wind up with perhaps a fruit with a slice taken out.
I'm not soliciting a program that is no longer sold, nor am I recommending you buy Illustrator solely because they folded Dimensions into the program after removing it for stand-alone sale.
I'm asking you to take a careful look at how highlights and shading are accomplished through blends; I'm attaching three examples in a Xara file, you can ungroup and un clip the pieces and I'll just bet you:
1. That you can reproduce a dozen items at a time with a well-designed gradient, and
2. You'll get a better idea how to accomplish a look using vectors and extrude effects together.
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I guarantee that if you experiment with these "drawings" for a little while, you'll learn something you can make your own and put in your work. Blends are a beautiful way to shade non-symmetrical shapes.
My Best,
Gary
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Thanks Gare for those blend examples, it inspired to take the challenge how that hamburger would look only by extrudes
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That's brilliant, csehz.
But, I don't think it's a chicken burger?!
If it had been, I would have bought it from you!
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But, I don't think it's a chicken burger?!
Well somehow maybe red wine looks more fitting to it and not white one, so that has to be rather beef :D
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I guarantee that if you experiment with these "drawings" for a little while, you'll learn something you can make your own and put in your work. Blends are a beautiful way to shade non-symmetrical shapes.
Being not too practiced drawing with blends but so tried that experiment, maybe once would be worth to have a With Only Blends topic on XaraXone, how to draw in 3D with blends or something like that :D
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Gare thanks and understood so that blends have the big advantage that stays everything in vector
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I'm a little torn at this time, because although I love the idea of using only extrudes, or only contours or blends—which is great thing to help you study— at the same time when you put sime of the tools together, you'll get better results I think, in less time.
Here's the same burger with a thick shake, and you can see in wireframe, when a gradient was easier and quicker, I went that way.
Color gradients, blends, and transparencies= a very powerful effect.
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Have a happy weekend, everyone!
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Color gradients, blends, and transparencies= a very powerful effect.
Absolutely true, assuming that those tools are in the hand of masters :)
I am still on the level rather trying to follow your .xar file :D That shake is very clever, including the group of those red stripes and those inverse circles, or the shake inside, thanks for it and wishing the same happy weekend
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One last thing before I get outa here for a couple of days and get the October Xara Xone up:
There are always, always more than one way to do an effect with Xara's tools.
The straw for example—csehz, thank you for pointing that out—could be done with a transparency set to Bleach mode to do the highlights, or the hard way by creating a complex gradient for the stripes.
Here's my final gift in the fast food drawing class:
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It's very hard to get a greasy look without spending a lot of time with the Transparency tool and actually looking at photographs of stuff. Ice cubes are also difficult—there are a lot of different textures that are different from one location of the shape to the other. The butter I did on the slice of toast in my gallery wasn't successful because I was lazy; same deal with the fries. Feel free to embellish the piece!
And keep them on your screen and not on your dinner table.
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That's brilliant, csehz.
But, I don't think it's a chicken burger?!
If it had been, I would have bought it from you!
So you want a chicken burger huh Rik. OK here ya go. I used cshez's hamburger and altered it some. Hope you don't mind cshez. Almost the entire thing is photo manipulation well not all.
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Re: September 2014 Tips and Tricks - Creating illustrations With Only Extrudes
Larry, is that a prank rubber chicken sandwich?
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No Gare. what it is is several photo put together. I just thought this would be amusing. i do own one of those rubber chickens however and used to use it quite a bit.
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Larry that photo manipulation looks very good technically. However seeing that poor chicken as content, it makes me definitely to the vegetarian direction :)
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Careful Larry, you'll have the the Animal Rights People on to you :D Here's my effort, the beef burger looks a little burnt, the tomatoe as changed into a peperroni and the cucumber slice as dried out so all in all, pretty much like the beef burger you get in England :D Not going to comment on the cheese slice. Could be called still life image but that's what you'd get if you eat it. :D Best beef burger I ever had was in Glendale Cal. many years ago, I had relatives living there, sadly no longer.
Stygg
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Re: September 2014 Tips and Tricks - Creating illustrations With Only Extrudes
Seeing the Hamburger is part of the content, here's a little history of this iconic All American dish or is it ? Perhaps its name is a clue :rolleyes:
Stygg
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That history is quite interesting :) From Hamburg steak, never heard about it
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That history is quite interesting :) From Hamburg steak, never heard about it
Just goes to show csehz that the XaraXone is the place to learn lots of things :)
Stygg
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Re: September 2014 Tips and Tricks - Creating illustrations With Only Extrudes
Let a born-American butt into this discussion for a moment. America is like Microsoft; we embrace and adapt. We're not parasites (yet), but the American Culture is such a mash-up of world cultures it's hard to tell where originality begins and adaptation ends.
I was on holiday in London (Russell Square) in the mid-1970s and tried out "American Style Pizza" while there. Okay, the Italian version of pizza is very soupy, and spiced very differently than American pizza. The "definitive American Pizza" is made in New York City by Greeks, no kidding. I think tankers pull up to each parlor with olive oil on Wednesdays! Um, the British "American Pizza" I tried was not authentic, sorry!
Similarly, the All-American Hamburger is, like most things American, overdone. I don't mean cooked too much, I mean we've turned the damned thing into a superlative: two all-beef patties, lettuce, cheese, onions, secret sauce on a sesame seed bun.
Give me a backyard grill and some smoked wood, and some (what we call) ground beef any day in the spring, summer, or autumn!
Do I win the prize today for most off-topic post? At least on the XaraXone area, where I can give myself infractions?
Banning myself for a while,
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"Give me a backyard grill and some smoked wood, and some (what we call) ground beef any day in the spring, summer, or autumn!"
I'm all for the above Gary but no Greek pizza just one that's quite popular in G.B. and sticking with the German theme, Dr. Oetker's Ristorante Pizza. I'll ban myself also, well until you have posted Nov. tut. :)
Stygg
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So you want a chicken burger huh Rik. OK here ya go. I used cshez's hamburger and altered it some. Hope you don't mind cshez. Almost the entire thing is photo manipulation well not all.
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Thanks, Larry.
Though, I'm not sure I would have thought of doing that.
And, I might bet a lot of money, that you (and I mean you) would not eat this burger?!
Very well put together, though. =D>
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Rik
Thanks, Larry-you (and I mean you) would not eat this burger?!
Very well put together, though. =D>
Rik, it's not a burger. It's now a chicken sandwich, marginally better-looking than Burger King's Chicken Sandwich Classic. In this sense, does "classic" mean that Beethoven used to eat it?
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From the looks of it, I don't think anyone should eat that one. The chicken is improperly cleaned and uncooked.
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Only Extrudes is the topic here, not chickens who bathe regularly, but chickens nonetheless. Okay, I used an oval shape for the ovoid but the rest of it is all extrudes:
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Re: September 2014 Guest Tute - Creating illustrations With Only Extrudes
Had a break from Gif animations as one of my grandkids wanted help with a safety project for school about the huge wagons from the continent whose drivers still use their mobiles while driving. It's illegal in the UK and you can be fined a couple of grand but there is still idiots who use them, not just lorry drivers, car drivers as well. Anyway, remenbered your train image Gary and that gave me the idea me and Paul (grandchild) came up with, nothing fancy but made the point.
Stygg and Paul :D
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I love it, stygg. We have bumper stickers here that echo the sentiment:
"GET OFF YOUR PHONE AND DRIVE".
I think having a Death Wish is fine as long as I am not involved!
Smart Phones. Stupid People.
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