Fred: How about this could you redo the glyphs you think need redoing? As for the name of the font I believe the name is from Gary's book and it sounds fine to me :)
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Fred: How about this could you redo the glyphs you think need redoing? As for the name of the font I believe the name is from Gary's book and it sounds fine to me :)
The font's name "Roundhead", I'm guessing refers to the rounded tops of the characters.
It was the name as the legend at the bottom of the Linotype 1904 Specimen book.
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Fred, I think that as a member of tg with a keen artistic eye, you should treat Frances' comment as an open invitation (not a challenge) to make the group collaboration as professional as it can be.
Mike and others have come on board and we enjoy the back and fourths and to have a goal larger than just chatting on this thread.
Not that any of us mind just chatting,
Gary
Hi Francis & Gary,
I mentioned the name of the font because it seems it was interpreted as having 'rounded' corners.
May I offer my version; here are the capitals and I'll work on the others.
Here is the punctuation plus a couple. I hope this is OK, if not let me know.
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Thanks Fred and Larry for your contributions!
Here is a corrected version of the dot com glyph.
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Again Thankyou to Fred and Larry for their assistance.
I had interpreted the font as having rounded corners but bow to the wisdom of those who understand fonts more than I.
This is starting to look good!!
Christine
Ok we still need a regular ampersand and @ A dollar sign, pound sterling sign, and euro sign, an interobang, and how about a bullet? Michelle are you still wishing to volunteer? Have a look at the ampersand that Bill (soquili) suggested a few posts back, and have a look at the letters and punctuation we have so far for ideas.
Ok, everyone working on round font 2, I have been busy making these extra fonts.
Please take a look and decide if you like or whether to toss them out. :)
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I have the numbers and lowercase basically ready; I need to go through and optimize/minimize the nodes and then I'll post the .xar file. Here's how they look. Comments?
Fred: from what I see so far looks good.
Michelle: I'll download your file and have a look at how your glyphs look with the rest of the font and get back to you soon, but at a quick glance I see some good stuff there!
thank you both for your contributions!
Looks good to me Fred.
:thanks Christine, Frances & Larry. I'm ready to put this together (caps, lowercase & numbers). What is the best layout for the next step? Do you want everything stacked like Gare suggested in the Burgeon Ornaments thread or each on a separate layer? Seems 'stacking' might be tricky with letterforms, i.e., no reference point. Please, let me know what would make the next step easier.
I think bill should be the one to answer that question Fred since he will be the one putting the parts together and making the font itself. But just as a guess how you have it looks good, just as long as Bill has easy access to each character.
Fred you can have each glyph on a layer of it's own. I will copy your glyphs to a template one at a time and size them to fit the template before exporting the individual glyph.
I think we have all the letters both upper and lower, punctuation a selection of different symbols so perhaps it's time for a look at how it's all going to come together. Bill, are going to be our fontmaster on this one?
Yes Frances I will. Besides being fun to do, I'm learning and/or relearning things about fonts and FontLab that had faded from my old memory.
Great, thanks Bill. Could you take a look at what we have so far? If there are glyphs that need correcting, or glyphs that we have missed just let us know.
Michelle has done two different ampersands, and two euro symbols so it will need to be decided which goes best with the rest of the font. This time around, as we are not working with symbols consistency is important. And I did those decorative extras that will need to be mapped as you see fit.
I will need Fred's .xar for the numbers and lower case letters, all I see is the PNG file in post #50.
Ok I didn't notice that :o
Fred: whenever you get a chance :)
Christine has a complete set of numbers, lower case, and upper case glyphs.
Here's my lowercase and numbers. I will send a newer version of my Caps (nodes reduced/optimized) as soom as I can, hopefully this evening.
Regards to all,
Frances, Larry, and Rik, please decide which set of glyphs from each contributer are to be used for the various segments of the font.
Everyone has provided great drawings.
...and here the Caps. There are some alternate glyphs; we'll need to decide if/how to use them.
Bill, I am quite happy for Fred's glyphs to be used, we interpreted them differently but Fred's will make a smaller font file, fewer nodes.
Christine
Ok first I have a few real world items to take care of, so I'm not sure how much time I'll have for forum stuff for the next couple of days. So either you will have to wait for me or if someone will volunteer to check the .xar files we have so far and look for consistency would be much appreciated.
And Fred, did you do over all of the glyphs Christine did?
My thoughts on Michelle's glyphs: I think the thicker glyphs might work better with the font, like the second euro sign, the first ampersand and the pound sterling sign, but I would like to hear other's opinions on this. Also you have a duplicate ampersand in your .xar file Michelle you have two of the curly one I'd like to see the thicker one if we could.
The fancy alternative glyphs I did I think would be nice as extras, and I haven't had time to look at Larry's file.
Thank you Christine, I would like for glyphs from everyone to be included.
Alternate glyphs are easily added using Open Type Font features but currently Xara applications do not support their use. We can add them by replacing some little used glyphs.
TalkGraphics is an international forum with members that use umlaut, tilde, grave, cedilla, etc so I would like to include the highlighted glyphs shown in the attached image.
You can support the unusually placed gylphs in a keyfinder document, exactly as was done for Burgeon.
And in the keyfinder, you might want to include the extended character key combos.
Example: Very few people need to use Æ in desktop publishing. So slug your extra character into this slot in FontLab, and then in the keyfinder PDF, mention the combo is Alt+0196.
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Thanks Gary good advice.
No harm done Fred. I did not notice it for awhile, it all blends together. :)
Ok Bill has asked for 59 more glyphs so we need volunteers to create them!
I have broken them up into 5 groups of ten and one group of nine so as each volunteer steps up I'll assign your glyphs! :) With a bit more work we can have this font ready to follow on the heels of the Burgeon font! :)
Ready to help, what can I do?
I'll do some.
Christine
Thanks Fred and Christine and I'll do a set too so that leaves 4 sets.
Fred here are yours:
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Christine here are yours:
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Remember these images are just to show you what glyphs you need to create not for tracing :)
Hi Frances, I have re-done some of the fonts and thickened them up etc., and reduced the fonts to the main ones in this second batch of fonts. When you can, see what you think now.
As for the glyphs that are left, do you need any assistance with these if so, what is required?
WOAH!
The accented characters can be added to the typeface by building a combo of already used characters and just the accent marks.
It's early and I forget what this is called, but ask Adam about this. It keeps the file size down when you reference a character instead of using the same one again and again. I think it's called a composite when you reference a character and add something to it.
Saves the group work, too!
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Good Mornin' Gare,
Yes, found it, 'composite' or precomposed; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precomposed_character
Let's see what Adam says.
It is called Compositing and that is what I planned to do but obviously I neglected to mention that in my previous post. :o
The font is looking pretty good. Gary will be taking a look at the .vfb file and making some nips and tucks where needed.
Here is a sample image of how things are going so far.
So we don't need all those glyphs created? Is this something that can be done within the fontlab software?