Re: a special request: converting a tutorial vor adobe illustrator to XaraXtreme
Dear Holger, I think we are sorting this out in a nice and commonsense manner. Depending on how they're used, words have the power to inform or confuse, incite or diffuse, inspire or deflate. When I saw Dougs edited message I did not find it disturbing at all. It reminded me, smiling, of Mark Twain: The time to begin writing an article is when you have finished it to your satisfaction. By that time you begin to clearly and logically perceive what it is you really want to say.
Please allow me to suggest to you to make yourself much more familiar with copyright issues on an international level to not involve yourself with intentions to make translations of the copyright word, and words. It's a matter of employing an understanding attitude that makes the difference.
Copyright is free and automatic upon creation of the work. An idea as such--an individual, mental and intangible phenomenon--cannot attain copyright because it is not a work, perceptible by other individuals. In the moment the idea is tangible--a physical representation on a media--it is defined as a perceptible creation and it becomes a work. A copyright notice (©) is not required on a work to gain copyright, but only the copyright owner is entitled to place a notice. It is useful in publishing the date of first publication and the owner of the intellectual property.
How many times do I not come upon webmaster expressions like "I borrowed that illustration from a site I found on the web". How does this individual do when the time comes to give it back to where it came from, I ask myself when exposed to this kind of ignorant attitude. That is what it outright is, when millions and millions of people all over the world do not absorb basic knowledge about intellectual property and international copyright legislation, when being engaged in commercial or non-profit activities of any kind. Ignorance! Some make themselves good at covering up behind their ignorance. But, today it is no longer an excuse in courts of law in most countries in the world, to defend ignorance with language barriers or educational insufficiencies.
Copyright infringement law suit cases are nuturing a myriad of lawyers and professional legal advicers, and much more cases are required to obtain more practices in the area of intellectual property violation. Why is that? Again, due to widespread ignorant attitudes towards copyright as being a human rights issue.
The legislative terms may be difficult to the, let's say, layperson. The main obstacle to understanding is the average attitude of ignorance, though. I am pleasantly satisfied when I receive acclaiming aahs and oohs from audiences as I quote article 27, 2 from the U.N. Universal Declaration of Human Rights of December 10, 1948, which reads: Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author.
Really, that's all there is to it to have a better attitude towards to the world of copyrights. World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO), The Digital Millenium Copyright Act (1998), Copyright Law and Policy, The Berne Convention (1886), Fair Use; Derivative Works, Redistribution (definition).
Have a good, busy time!
Cheers, Anders
Re: a special request: converting a tutorial vor adobe illustrator to XaraXtreme
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Originally Posted by
Holger
hello,
as I opened my thread some minutes ago, I was really outraged!
I saw Dougs "Delete" and thought: oh, what kind of answer is this?
It was unexpected. But the guy must felt really cool, writing this.
So I tried to understand, what could has been wrong with my posting.
Holger
You have a VERY strange way of looking at things-very strange. Maybe it's a language thing for you, maybe you are new to the internet.
There is no hidden meaning there-I was going to post something, then did not. Posts can not be deleted so when I forgot some of what I was going to say, I deleted the post and just wrote deleted. People do that all the time on most forums that I've ever been on. They'll say something like 'delete' or 'ignore' or 'cancelled'.
You're trying to read between the lines and there's nothing to read!
Re: a special request: converting a tutorial vor adobe illustrator to XaraXtreme
I think it is fair to say that there are a few things that Illustrator can do that Xara cannot do (the Mesh gradient fill is one). And Illustrator is a feature rich application that has a price tag to match.
But it is also fair to say that there are a lot more things that Xara can do that Illustrator cannot do. Gradient transparency is one of the most obvious examples. And most of Xara's actions are interactive and intuitive. This means you create and edit a gradient fill on screen and not in a dialog. Most of the same functions in Illustrator are applied from a dialog rather than on screen.
And if you want to see a good example of where Xara beats the shorts off any application, do a 999 step blend. Add to this, you can create a blend of objects and groups of objects containing transparency, bitmaps, text, you name it. Illustrator and CorelDRAW cannot even come close to this.
The benefit to Illustrator is it is the industry standard. But if you are more interested in great results and less in following the rest of the sheep ;), then Xara Xtreme is the better of the two products. By far. The results speak for themselves.
Gary
Re: a special request: converting a tutorial vor adobe illustrator to XaraXtreme
You showed the example of "Live Trace" in the tutorial! well Xpro has no such feature nor Live Paint which runs in conjunction with the other but it is not as easy to use as it makes out. Most Illustrators who are using vectors find it easier and more reliable to Hand Trace as Live Trace makes in most cases define the line a shape and it is not quite as easy to use the direct selection tool to emphasise a calf muscle to make the leg look more feminine. My work involves using AI all the time which took me nearly a year to get really comfortable using it and as Gary stated Xpro is much easier to use and the comfort zone comes much quicker, like 3 months, I am slow.
As Gary tried to explain each programme has its strengths and weaknesses and it is kind of hard to compare. Really 3 things that set AI apart from Xpro is the standard brushes that come with the programme are really great and so easy to use. Secondly is the ability to import data files into graphics as I do a lot of company reports (this maybe a minority thing). Lastly and most importantly is the way AI handles colour modes from CMYK to RGB it does it well and the difference when printing is only marginal it really is the whole printing thing which is better but that was only from AI CS upwards.
having said all that why do I when I bring my work home Use Xpro instead of AI well it is a time thing, i feel really at home and in my comfort zone using this software and then I can export it back as a PDF and take it back to work and everyone is happy. Gary also stated about using transparencies which are much easier to use to change highlights on a drawing than AI Gradient tool. In my little experience working in a publishing house none of the illustrators would ever think about using the tool and because most of our work is in CMYK not even transparencies as it can cause problems when printing.
All the time I have used the word XPro as it is not fair to compare Xtreme to AI although it does hold up against AI in the RGB mode and sometimes exceeds it. Both have professional outputs with AI having a slight lead as XPro still has a few bugs in the PDF import filter but for speed and ease of use I would use XPro to do your tutorial and I would finish it quicker in XPro as a similar experienced illustrator would in AI even using CS2. All of this is just my opinion and someone else might challenge this but that is there opinion. These two programmes are 2 good vector programmes capable of producing quality drawings to both commercial and private use but one cost 3 three times the price of of the other and it is up to you to see if this extra cost is worth it.
By the way I must be thick I can't see the relevance of the copyright issues here in this thread.
Re: a special request: converting a tutorial vor adobe illustrator to XaraXtreme
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Originally Posted by
Albacore
I can't see the relevance of the copyright issues here in this thread.
I found it unavoidable to enlighten Holger about intellectual property due to the nature of good intentions he had in his request when opening this thread, and therefore relevant.
Cheers, Anders