My first try at this taken from drawing in an art instruction book I have. Any thoughts???
Randy Allen
[This message was edited by Randy Allen on March 09, 2002 at 12:59.]
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My first try at this taken from drawing in an art instruction book I have. Any thoughts???
Randy Allen
[This message was edited by Randy Allen on March 09, 2002 at 12:59.]
My first try at this taken from drawing in an art instruction book I have. Any thoughts???
Randy Allen
[This message was edited by Randy Allen on March 09, 2002 at 12:59.]
I love the design!
However, one technical thing. I think the open umbrella shadow should be more sharp. All the other umbrellas shadows are sharp and dark and I hardly even realized the open one had a shadow.
Also, the shape of the open umbrellas shadow seems wrong. From the light direction that the painting seems to be portraying, the circular shadow caused by umbrella is shaped wrong, look beloe to see what I mean
Steve Newport
I now realise that you probably used Xara's shadow tool to achieve the effect. The problem with that is it only 'sees' 2d, so the only shape of shadow you get will be in the shape of what you see on screen when in reality or 3d you'd be able to go around and see a full circle. So you'd need to go into the drawing and do it yourself
Steve Newport
Thanks Steve. I did the shadow myself, but you are right, it does look out of place considering the shadows from the other umbrellas. Let me see what I can do.
Randy Allen
I really like your painting. I agree with what Steve has pointed out, but other than that, it's a very interesting concept.
Great work!
Steve, if you pop back into this thread, I have a couple of questions for you. Most all of my art background is in impressionistic and abstract oil painting, but I really love illustration, photo realistic work, and yours is some of the best I've seen. When I try in Xara to achieve these effects my biggest problem is in shapes. I've tried everything, using squares, rectangles, circle and elipses and then using the shape editor tool on them. I've tried using the pen tool to start the shape and I've tried using the freehand tool with both a mouse and my graphics tablet and pen to trace from photos. I just can't get the perfect shape I need like you do when you do something like one of your paintings of say, the motorcylce or jet-ski or even your architectual renderings. Could you explain some of your techniques? I don't want you to go to all the trouble a mini-tutorial would take. Just if you could explain some detail. Maybe you could start a thread along these lines and other's could as well, explain some of their techinques and what works best. Your work is simply amazing to me. I wish I had your talents.
Randy, I happened to notice you are from St. Louis. I live in the Soulard area. Where are you?
Jack
Steve, I took your advice, and I also added some texture to make it look more like paper. Let me know what you think.
Jack - I live out in Chesterfield - near Clarkson and Baxter. Thanks for the review!
Randy Allen
[This message was edited by Randy Allen on March 09, 2002 at 13:02.]
I know your area well, glad to have a fellow St. Louisian here.
The change you made to the umbrella shadow is a step in the right direction, but there's something that looks un-natural about it to me. I can't really put my finger on it though. Like it's standing up or something and not really on the sand. Maybe it's just me. It certainly isn't a criticism, the work is great.
If anyone can help, it will be Steve. He's got this whole light shadow thing down to a science.
Keep up the great work. I really liked the scotch tape at the top of the painting. Nice effect.
Jack
I've just gone back and looked at it again, and I'm guessing that the first time it hadn't fully loaded or something, because now it looks different and much better.
Forget everything I said in the last post. Except about Steve! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
Jack
I think I am done with it now unless anyone has any more great suggestions! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
Randy Allen