responsive web design

[Big Frank]

1001 reasons why xara need to include rwd features in their web design apps

http://designinstruct.com/roundups/i...ve-web-design/

by not doing so they are saying rwd isn't important guys don't worry

well it is and you should

[mwenz]

Just how important is it when their site isn't responsive?

But, I agree for the most part.

[steve.ledger]

It's come up a number of times in the recent past.
Thing is, Xara is a WYSIWYG web designing app, Responsive Design isn't WYSIWYG. Charles Moir is big on 100% WYSIWYG.
The question is whether the Xara camleot core is capable of this without a complete from the ground up rewrite, which would require a large investment in development costs.
Certainly the the HTMLfilter.dll would almost certainly need a major rewrite.

[Big Frank]

even if it can't automate it which i agree would be a monumental task the web design apps could provide maybe a sidebar design column where a user can design hhis mobile page/s alongside his desktop bound page/s
that in itself would add a lvl of unwanted screen clutter what with all the galleries but i notice from many posts a lot of people have monster screens and i have a couple of 1920 monitros
i'm woefully behind on making m own sites mobile ready
mostly because im lazy and i"m happy with the display of my sites on my own phone (an old samsung wave)
but they're not responsive and they rely on the user zooming
i've made resolution to add heath robinson-type rwd to my xara sites from now on
because i'm a fool if i think my clients will not listen to my competition who do offer it
its not rocket science to knock something up and the more you do the more you get into the habit
if it satisfies the needs of modern browsing and my clients then im all for it
especially if i can add a bit onto the bill as well for that phrase 'mobile ready"

[Big Frank]

Just how important is it when their site isn't responsive?

well like me they just move on to another site
i dont mobile browse a lot and in fact i hate m.google preferring to use google
but if in a hurry for information mible sites work for me better than big ones
and i suppose mobile sites are by definition for the user who's in a hurry
im stuck behind a desk and a big screen most of the time so its easy to forget more and more people use their phones
but im not really sure how to deal with the tablet brigade
do a site for them too? really really not sure

[csehz]

I know that probably that logic would drop out some of the screens, but on tablets what can be some average width of resolution?

As Frank mentions I neither like any mobile version of sites like the google has or the facebook too, not long ago searched how to go to the original facebook page from a tablet. But this just shows that a lot of users prefer one site in one format, that would maybe give some argument to search a minimum resolution which works on phones, tablets, and monitors, risking of course that on mobile devices the full screen is filled and on monitors only some of that

[Jimi King]

I think it's becoming less of a problem as time goes on. As tablet resolutions go up more and more sites suddenly fit. You could of course design everything to fit 768px wide and you're going to keep a lot of people happy. It's also second nature to just turn the tablet around to landscape if it doesn't fit in portrait, and then most things fit.

As for mobile phones, I rarely look at sites on them. Once you're over 50 I think one just says stuff it. I'll wait until later and view it on something where I don't have to squint.

[Big Frank]

a lot depends on

1. the target market of the site
2. how much you want to stripe the client for having a mobile version

[gwpriester]

If you need a mobile version then design a mobile version. It does not make sense to sacrifice what you would normally have in a browser version and it is overkill to expect someone with a mobile connection to wait to download your browser version. Create a mobile and a browser version. Sledger has a good script somewhere to redirect your visitors to the mobile site if they come in with a smart phone. And if you design your site judiciously it will look good and be functional on a tablet.

[Big Frank]

so let it be said
let's all shave his head