NSA bugging phones, e-mails, EVERYTHING

[handrawn]

but that's one of the things it is for

[gwpriester]

TalkGraphics is a graphics forum. And yes, off topic chat is good for off topic things, such as some much of the interesting stuff Paul and Rik post which by and large relate to graphics and science. But this is not the forum for hot button political discussions.

Were it up to me, I would close this thread. But it is not up to me.

[jim64]

Looks like the "the Off topic " thread needs to be Explained better Off topic means just that. It doesn't Say "off topic but with limitations " does it? Though ,I agree Off topic about graphics maybe or a Media type discussion. A little debate is a healthy thing, So far, it has been very Civil.

[Rik]

Personally, I wouldn't have thought that any explanation was needed, that discussing political or religious topics is not recommended.

[steve.ledger]

Looks like the "the Off topic " thread needs to be Explained better Off topic means just that. It doesn't Say "off topic but with limitations " does it?

Familiarise yourself with the forum guidelines, Jim.
Best policy is to know the rules of the house you're visiting

We ask you to refrain from volatile subjects such as religion or politics and keep the intended spirit of TalkGraphics.com in mind.

FORUM RULES ► http://www.talkgraphics.com/misc.php?do=showrules

[jon404]

Hey, this one's my fault. Hadn't read the TG forum rules; only saw the 'Computer problems, or landing on Mars. Here you can go off-topic...' at the top of the topic area.

Apologies!

Jon

[jim64]

That's all good, I understand, my mess .Sheesh dude Chill out.

[Barbara B]

As the Administrator of TalkGraphics I believe that this topic does fall into the "volatile subjects such as religion or politics" category so I am closing this thread.

I believe that this is absolutely a topic that is important to discuss on forums that specialize in privacy or other political matters.

But if you want your your voice and viewpoint on this subject to actually matter, to actually make a difference, you need to contact the representatives and in your local and national government and tell them how you them to handle these privacy and security issues and tell them where you think the balance point between privacy and security should be. Voters can influence public policy in much more direct and measurable ways by communicating directly with representatives rather than hoping that policy makers will read and be persuaded by forum posts.