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    I'm currently working on glass jars for a paid project, but to prevent a single minded track I develop some office furniture for a presentation next week.

    The 'drafter' is a multi functional office object to store papers in binders (?) as well as to work and discuss large blueprints which have ample space on the drop shape side desk.

    The 'roxx' is an executive desk made from root wood and granite. The chair is ugly - just a chick'n dirty thingie to illustrate the dimensions. The static is ok, I've tested it. The pipes have a wall thickness of 4 mm each.

    Good enough to compete with existing models for the upper class offices?

    Let me know. Any crit is welcome.

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    I'm currently working on glass jars for a paid project, but to prevent a single minded track I develop some office furniture for a presentation next week.

    The 'drafter' is a multi functional office object to store papers in binders (?) as well as to work and discuss large blueprints which have ample space on the drop shape side desk.

    The 'roxx' is an executive desk made from root wood and granite. The chair is ugly - just a chick'n dirty thingie to illustrate the dimensions. The static is ok, I've tested it. The pipes have a wall thickness of 4 mm each.

    Good enough to compete with existing models for the upper class offices?

    Let me know. Any crit is welcome.

    jens g.r. benthien
    designer
    http://www.sacalobra.de

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    About the Roxx-design - Granite is quite heavy (understatement of the day ) so I wonder if the "legs" to the right will hold up the desk. Isn't there a risk the already bent form will bend even more, resulting in a slanted desk ("aw schucks, there rolled another pen off the desk!!!")??

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    I'm using ultralight granite ;-}

    No, fun aside - the granite plate is only on the left side, and that leg will carry it - I've calculated it. 4 mm stainless steel sheet enforced with pipes at the edges won't bend.

    The right leg won't bend either. 6mm stainless steel plus enforcements will do the job, unless you put 500 kg (approx 1000 pounds) on it. This is the official version, I don't publish the unofficial version here ;-}

    I've developed many granite tables with stainless steel legs, and the ones that went into production didn't bend or fold at all. A large desk for an executive meeting room weighs 420 kg, but the tiny stainless steel legs are sturdy as hell. The trick is to use the right material - and in this case only stainless steel with incredible wall thickness will do the job. Standard iron is far too weak, even if you harden it after bending.

    OK, and now I have to be honest: I didn't show the important detail because I don't want to see this design at the next furniture exhibition ;-} , that's why I say 'official' and 'unofficial' version.

    That's how I 'disguise' my published desigins, even in presentations: if somebody thinks he can do it, he will fail because he doesn't have the vital information for the missing part... besides the mssing experience with the stainless steel stuff.

    Another example: the table plate. You only think you know how it's done, but the important detail is hidden from your eyes. I can disclose this tiny secret: there is a stainless steel plate worked into the wood (sorry, no more details here).

    My granite supplier told me what happened to another customer: he approached him with a similar design I've made 2 years ago, but without the vital tiny parts I used, orderd a large granite plate, and when they put it onto the rack construction it deformed it in a few seconds and the expensive granite plate broke into 3 pieces.

    Quidquid agas, agis prudentere et respice finem (latin, meaning: whatever you do, do it carefully and think about the results!) - my first priority philosophy to mechanical construction.

    So please forgive me if I don't disclose everything here - I'm just cautious because I don't want to give away my know how for free.

    However, I hope you enjoy the shapes even though you don't see the missing parts. What counts is the overall form, shape and function.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jens g.r. benthien:

    However, I hope you enjoy the shapes even though you don't see the missing parts. What counts is the overall form, shape and function.

    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    OK!

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    Jens, these are very pleasing forms. Very modern and functional (I think the current terminology is Erognomic). I'm sure they will sell well.

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    I don't know if they will sell well, all I want to achieve is to have the (prospective) customer say: I want more, here is a contract. ;-}

    Isn't it weird that I can't stop thinking about new shapes and designs all the time? I mean I'm doing it for such a long time now and I'm still not bored at all, still **love** my job, my profession and everything that's related to it.

    I just can't stop developing new objects once I like the area (or is industry the better word?).

    If only the customers won't be that slow ;-}

    Have a great weekend!

    jens g.r. benthien
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    Very nice designs jens


    When you say crits do you mean of the render as well or just the design?



    Stu.

 

 

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