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    Default Re: Box for the Loft

    OK Big Frank.

    I've had another look at the shadows.
    My investigations have revealed this result.

    The box shadow is as shown.

    The shadows of the book was a bit more difficult.
    The rims of the books (where you see the pages) do not allow any shadow to be thrown onto the pages, because, the rims stick out more than the pages.
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    Default Re: Box for the Loft

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Frank View Post
    It was the interdimensional plasma field ...
    I knew I should have kept quiet about the cat

    All this boxing with shadows must stop ....
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    Nothing lasts forever...

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    Default Re: Box for the Loft

    Quote Originally Posted by handrawn View Post
    All this boxing with shadows must stop ....
    Shadow Boxing is a well known and well practiced art.
    As you've been discussing 'art', I would have thought you would have known all about that, Steve?!

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    Default Re: Box for the Loft

    Excelent rendering on the box Rik. You are displaying good realism in your work. all the angles and shading look good. I like the light texture that you used. I liked the first box that you did without the casting shadow. It dose look odd the books are not casting a shadow agents the box as the light sores is coming from the right side of the box.

    Anyways. Great job.

    Paul

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    Default Re: Box for the Loft

    Thanks for your comments, Paul.
    To be honest, I like my first effort as well.
    Though, I did want to see how the shadows might look.

    I have put a box under a light and the light is only slightly from the right.
    That's why the box is only throwing a short shadow.
    In this case, the books do not cast a shadow onto the box.

    Well, as far as the way I see it!

    Of course, the Xperts may be able to tell me different.

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    Default Re: Box for the Loft

    I bow down to the Light of Rik

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    If someone tried to make me dig my own grave I would say No.
    They're going to kill me anyway and I'd love to die the way I lived:
    Avoiding Manual Labour.

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    Default Re: Box for the Loft

    I might be wrong, but this is what i am seeing. i used the wall-shadow tool setting the light direction coming down from the top right. The wall-shadow tool shows a shadow casting down to the lower left of the books onto the box. The shadow could use more work but good enough for demonstration. ether way, the box looks right. it the book i thought looked odd. If the light is coming striate down from the top, the books a right but the side of the box is to bright. Thats just what I'm seeing anyways. I'm certainly no expert on the subject.

    You said that you used the extrude tool to create the books, looks good. great effect. i would like to see more on that.

    I like your work, keep it up.

    Paul
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    Default Re: Box for the Loft

    Hi Paul.

    If you look at the shadows the two open flaps of the box are casting, then you will see that the light is more from the direction I have shown it.
    Only slightly from the right so that the right side of the box is brighter than the left.

    If the light was coming from where you've shown it, then the left open flap of the box would not be casting a shadow.
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    Default Re: Box for the Loft

    Yes, i see that. I pulled the light to the top but it still cast a shadow. i posted with and without.
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    Default Re: Box for the Loft

    Hi Paul.

    Here is a photo, where I've tried to recreate the scene. (I don't have a square box to hand.)
    You can see that if the light is almost from the top, then the books cannot throw a shadow like you say.

    There is, however, a slight darkening on the box, near where the books are.
    But this is not a shadow that the books are casting, as you've tried to show in your example.

    Let me know what you think.
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