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    Default Re: Divided by a common language

    Quote Originally Posted by ankhor View Post
    Just like Christians don`t lack a believe in Zeus, they just don`t believe it.
    i can't quite believe you just said that
    If someone tried to make me dig my own grave I would say No.
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    Default Re: Divided by a common language

    Denis - How did this topic turn into a commentary on atheism?

    Grace's idea is English words that mean different things in England than they do in the USA.

    For example, we say Saran Wrap for a clear plastic that is used to wrap food and keep it from spoiling. The British call it "cling film".

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    Default Re: Divided by a common language

    Denis, the english word you are maybe looking for is 'agnostic' - an atheist has a belief, as you say, even if it is a 'denial belief', but an agnostic simply does not know, and is happy to admit it

    good philosophic point about 'not believing' not being the same as 'lacking a belief' - 'lacking a belief' being the viewpoint of someone who believes, which someone who does not believe doesn't have.

    but maybe lost a bit of impact and clarity due to english not being your first language .... [and difficult to get clear even when it is ]

    and possibly not what Grace intended
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    Here in Canada we call it plastic wrap.

    What handrawn called a dresser we call a sideboard
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    ah a sideboard is what you put kelt [junk, old books, unwanted gifts, frank's clothes] in, unless the other half puts their foot down and insists its used for storing 'useful' stuff - in fact all the stuff that does not quite fit in the cupboard [built in storage area own door] under the stairs...

    my other half tells me that 'dresser' [not to be confused with 'dressing table' which is a bedroom item with mirror] is really 'welsh dresser' and I am too lazy to say it in full [I blame my gran]
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    Default Re: Divided by a common language

    Quote Originally Posted by neodeist View Post
    Do you mean Braille? Embossed characters for the blind.
    No, Frances had it right. Another term for umbrella. I don't know where I picked up the term bumberchute, but I like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Frank View Post
    my clothes generally go on the floor... or on the bureau if there's room
    Very funny Frank.
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    Default Re: Divided by a common language

    This thread has brought to mind a funny story about the way that things can get confusing. My husband and I have a friend who lives in South Australia, and one day we arranged a video chat with her. I was showing her a hat that I had given my husband for his birthday, it was an imported (from Australia) wide brimmed hat made of oiled cotton. I thought it looked like the one that Harrison Ford wore in the Indiana Jones movie.

    Any way we showed it to our friend and she called it a Kabra and I thought she was saying cobra. I'm saying no it's not made of snake skin, no it doesn't have a snake on it, and she kept saying "no Kabra" lol it turns out Kabra is short for Kakabara (I might not be spelling this right) a famous brand of hats in Australia! and kabra has become a general term for this style of hat.
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    Yeah sorry. I wrote it was one of my personal hang ups
    And I just came out of a chatroom where this discussion was going in
    and I was stil in that mindframe. So Gary you were right, it was not the
    same. But still, if the meaning of words aren`t clear to begin with.....
    So it wasn`t about atheism , it was an example. How people describe
    things from their point of view.

    Handdraw got it, although the point about not being the first langauge is
    a faulty one, people who speak more languages actually develop a better language feeling
    because they have a broader base of words and meanings. And actually the word 'lack' comes
    from my language from the word 'laken'

    So again sorry if it went into a different direction I went for the broader misunderstandings
    of language.

    And I know the word agnostic, they are the most fun in discussions, because they can
    jump to any position while in the discussion for their believe is undefined.

    Now excuse me, I have to bash my head against the wall after the 20st
    'acces violation' today in XXP5. Well, it atleast teaches you to save regularly,
    which I do now.
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    Default Re: Divided by a common language

    well lets just say it obviously wasn't that clear to some native english speakers
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    Default Re: Divided by a common language

    Quote Originally Posted by ankhor View Post
    Now excuse me, I have to bash my head against the wall after the 20st
    'acces violation' today in XXP5.
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