thx again Drwyd, i was just messing about with those xar files you sent, not sure if i did it the right way but i hadnt seen your post, and using the 3state set you uploaded i dragged it onto the page and it loaded pages of the buttons, i copied the set, deleted the rest and pasted the navbar into the page, and blow me it all works as supposed to! - i'm so chuffed! - i'm sure their is a quicker way to achieve importing it but and i'll look at your thumbnail (ps i deleted all the mousedown layers in all the pages as well)

Thanks also to gwpriester for his input and the xar file you guys are something else, i really hope one day i can help someone out!

website is now live using the new and improved navigation system...

regards to you all

Ray