Subtraction vector points artifacts

[steps]

Hi there. I searched for a past question about this for awhile, and i couldn't find anything about this subject. Well, I'm building cartoon characters in Designer Pro 7 and when I create a vector object then subtract a vector line from the object I always get these leftover artifacts that are 4 vector points at the end of the subtraction areas. I'm using an "ellipse" linear line for the subtractions. I'm attaching a screen shot of what is happening. I apologize if this has been ask before. I just got back from a long hiatus.

[Rik]

Hi steps.

I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean but I just created a square shape and then cut out a similar looking shape out of it.
I didn't get the result you say.
My result looks fine and I zoomed right in to see, and I just get one point.

Might be worth attaching a .xar file with an example of what you're trying to do?!

[steps]

Yeah, I've tried different type vector line on a box shape, and I still get the same result. Looks like it could be a setting. I still get the extra vector points added to the end of my line cut out. Any help would be much appreciated. Thx

[Rik]

I'm sure an Xpert will come along very soon and tell you exactly what the problem is but the only way I can make any progress is if you posted a .xar file with an example of what you are trying to do.
Then I can see if I get the same result when I open your file.

You don't have to post the whole drawing, just an example of the problem.

[MarcT]

Hi steps, yeah it seems that the "ellipse" line profile have this point structure when you subtract them.
I've tried changing the caps type but I get the same results as you.

It's funny because if you turn the line to editable shape it doesn't show this.

Marc

[handrawn]

the old subtraction and intersection stuff is intended for shapes - this is why it is in the arrange menu under 'combine shapes'

if you try to do a simple subtraction/intersetion of a 'constant' line on a shape you will see [try at around 16pt line width] that what happens is not what you might expect - the result ignores the line width setting and defaults to the base 'smallest possible line width' setting [slice works ok, as the line width being ignored is what you want in this case]

once you have converted line to shape - no problem, as you are subtracting/intersecting shape with shape

if you use a line with a shape profile then the 'shape part' subtracts/intesects but the fact that it is still a line give you the effect you see..

[angelize]

I always use slice (ctrl +4) rather than intersect or subtraction. One thing to note when slicing with a line Xara will continue the slice in the direction of the line even if your line does not extend outside the shape you are sliciing.

[ad1066]

It's funny because if you turn the line to editable shape it doesn't show this.

There's the key, convert to shape before you subtract. With the keyboard shortcut (Ctrl+Shift+S), it's hardly any more work at all, certainly a lot less work than cleaning up the extra nodes.

-- Ben

[handrawn]

you need 'convert line to shape' Ben

ctrl+shift+S is 'convert to editable shapes' - works on quick shapes and text etc but not on unclosed lines - there is no standard key shortcut for 'convert line to shape' but you can set one in pro version

[RE-EDIT - I get what appear to be inconsistant results using ctrl+shift+s ]

[wizard509]

I've been trying over and over and re-reading your post and unfortunately cannot seem to duplicate your problem. I seem to recall that sometimes I have run into that problem, but not consistently, and when I did I don't know what caused it, nor can I really remember anything about it. Just for your information I tried subtracting using CTRL2, slicing, elliptical line, everything but they all worked as expected.