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    One of my customers asked me to create 9 posters - each 700*1000 mm. I had used a Nikon Coolpix 990 digital camera to take some photos of their products. The posters was intended to use as indidual posters, and as a colection/collage.

    First I prepared the photos in Paint Shop Pro, and saved them as Tiffs (originals was jpeg).

    I also wanted to use some photos of stones as a background. Because of the width of the collection, I created a panorama from three photos, and used Xara to make this, and exported the panorama as a big TIFF, and sliced it to three parts in PSP.

    Then I created three Xara files with three independent 700*1000 mm rectangles, and imported one of the sliced image to each Xara document. Then I used the fill tool to create the bitmap-background from each of the three sliced images. The fill is centered in the middle rectangle an was dragged to cover the background of the three rectangles. I also coverd the bakground with a grey rectangle, and used the transparent tool to soften the colors of the background. I did the same with the next to Xara documents - so I had 9 posters as a big panorama - width is about 6,5 meters.

    Then I imported the photos of the products, and placed them at the same position in each poster, and put some text and the logo, which was created in Xara.

    When finished, I exported each poster as an independent RGB Tiff with 200 dpi. I thought this would make a crisp text/logo.

    At the printoffice, they imported the the TIFFs to Photoshop and created photoshop-eps. I got the posters today, and both me and the printoffice was very satisfied. The customer will get them tomorrow - I look forward to bring them.

    http://home.online.no/~oystange/montering.jpg

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    One of my customers asked me to create 9 posters - each 700*1000 mm. I had used a Nikon Coolpix 990 digital camera to take some photos of their products. The posters was intended to use as indidual posters, and as a colection/collage.

    First I prepared the photos in Paint Shop Pro, and saved them as Tiffs (originals was jpeg).

    I also wanted to use some photos of stones as a background. Because of the width of the collection, I created a panorama from three photos, and used Xara to make this, and exported the panorama as a big TIFF, and sliced it to three parts in PSP.

    Then I created three Xara files with three independent 700*1000 mm rectangles, and imported one of the sliced image to each Xara document. Then I used the fill tool to create the bitmap-background from each of the three sliced images. The fill is centered in the middle rectangle an was dragged to cover the background of the three rectangles. I also coverd the bakground with a grey rectangle, and used the transparent tool to soften the colors of the background. I did the same with the next to Xara documents - so I had 9 posters as a big panorama - width is about 6,5 meters.

    Then I imported the photos of the products, and placed them at the same position in each poster, and put some text and the logo, which was created in Xara.

    When finished, I exported each poster as an independent RGB Tiff with 200 dpi. I thought this would make a crisp text/logo.

    At the printoffice, they imported the the TIFFs to Photoshop and created photoshop-eps. I got the posters today, and both me and the printoffice was very satisfied. The customer will get them tomorrow - I look forward to bring them.

    http://home.online.no/~oystange/montering.jpg

    Øystein


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    I am always thrilled to hear a success story like this. Congratulations.

    The only question I have is why 200dpi? Were this printed a low resolution?

    Normally I would export at 300-600dpi which would be good for magazines (300dpi) or high quality, high resolution priting (600dpi).

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The only question I have is why 200dpi? Were this printed a low resolution?

    Normally I would export at 300-600dpi which would be good for magazines (300dpi) or high quality, high resolution priting (600dpi).
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    The printing machines - based on a photographic process - currently don't handle a higher resolution than 200 dpi. However, I've had several posters printed @ 200 dpi as well and they are crips and clear. You can't see a single dot. The final looks like a 150-200 lpi print in offset.

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    Hi

    The original digital photos are 72 dpi - 2048*1536. The vectorbased information on the posters was the text and the logo. I increased the dpi to make the text as sharp as possible. I have also understood that increasing the dpi to more than 200 for digital print only increase the filesize - not the quality.

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    I generally determine the printed resolution (as Jens pointed out is LPI-lines per inch). I then make my image site 2 X that amount.

    So if your poster is being printed at 133 LPI I would export my image at 266dpi.

    It has always worked for me.

    Gary

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    Gary: "I generally determine the printed resolution (as Jens pointed out is LPI-lines per inch). I then make my image site 2 X that amount."

    And that 2x rule is a blind, stupid rule, a mantra mubled by the mentally lazy and/or ignorant begginners - those who do not really *understand* resolution issues. It works accetably for most photos, yes, but if you - for special-effect purposes - use rasterized text in your design or other super-sharp information (like gridlines), bad results will always appear with that idiot's formula. There won't be jaggies, actually, but those hard-edged parts of the design will look blurry with this famous 2x rule - which really should be called "the infamous 2x rule". As I have pointed out before: for images with such super-sharp information a much higher actual DPI is needed: 600-800. And this is NOT directly related to the LPI of the halftone screen - it is related to the discriminatory capacity of human vision in conjunction with us being used to seeing text and lines as super-sharp. So no cut and dry formula can be mindlessly applied.

    But hey, if it "works for me" - who am I to argue?


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    [This message was edited by Klaus Nordby on September 17, 2002 at 11:02.]

    [This message was edited by Klaus Nordby on September 17, 2002 at 11:03.]
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    jens

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    Klaus,

    I'm no graphics expert, but I don't need to be in order to comment on your reply. It's one thing to correct somebody in these forums, but it's another to invoke terms like "stupid" and "idiot" in reference to one of our moderators (especially when he has more experience in the business than you do). Your harsh responses only serve to damage your credibility and will cause others to think twice about contributing to the forums if they think they may get this type of reply from you.

    Something to think about.

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    In Norway there is an adage: " Det perfekte er det godes verste fiende" - which translated to "good enough" english could be: "The perfect thing is the good things worst enemy".

    I am not an expert in anything - but it works for me.

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