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  1. #11
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    Default Re: 21px is "beyond numeric range of the program"

    Hi Handrawn,
    I have XP Home, Sp3 too, I can see and repeat all this in XDP6.
    Oh, i have glasses too.
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    Default Re: 21px is "beyond numeric range of the program"

    sledger: Probably best to move it to "Dear Xara" then?
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    Default Re: 21px is "beyond numeric range of the program"

    Hi BP

    then it's is a bug and I don't have it [yet]
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    Default Re: 21px is "beyond numeric range of the program"

    Hi Handrawn,
    Yes it´s a bug and i´m sure you have it too in your XDP6, if you try to repeat the steps from Steve ( Sledger ), you well see it.
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    Default Re: 21px is "beyond numeric range of the program"

    Here is a screen capture for the bug.
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  6. #16
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    Default Re: 21px is "beyond numeric range of the program"

    Version 6 displays any non-zero size value that would be rounded to 0 in the current units using smaller units. E.g. if the size rounds to "0cm" then it tries to display mm. But if that too rounds to "0mm" then it uses the smallest units available to it which are "millipoints", the internal units used to store all sizes and coordinates.

    If you enter values for the width or height of very wide-aspect objects when you have aspect lock enabled can easily cause one of the dimensions to become zero or too large to handle. This is unrelated to the display of very small values. The only small inconsistency is that dragging copes with it silently but using the entering text in one of the edit fields shows the error dialog.

    Phil

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    Default Re: 21px is "beyond numeric range of the program"

    PhilM: I understand. Actually that's a pretty neat way to handle display of values.

    I think the biggest problem is that the error message is not clear: I changed the value of the *width* field (to something reasonable), however, XDP says that "That entry is beyond the numeric range of the program", implying that I manually entered an invalid value, while actually, it complains about its own automatically calculated value for the height field due to "Lock aspect ratio".

    The error message should either be muted, or say something like "Your entry causes another dimension of this object to be beyond ..."
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    Default Re: 21px is "beyond numeric range of the program"

    thanks Phil for the info

    well I still cannot get the line to displace, I did follow Steve's example of course, and tried it various ways...

    I do see the line H as mp when the line H is 250mp [below 500mp?]
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    Default Re: 21px is "beyond numeric range of the program"

    Handdrawn,

    I think you have a very valid point/suggestion.

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    Default Re: 21px is "beyond numeric range of the program"

    It's also dependent on whether Scale line width is on or off. If it's off entering 21 pixels works as expected as it only scales in line width but not a height. However if it's on it scales the height as well, which causes the error message.
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