How do you make nav bars from scratch? Desperate plee

[TimBox]

This is a desperate plea, where can I find info on how to make my own nav bars?

I read the help file, the book, every thing!!!

No mater what I do I cannot get the mouse over to work properly, You have to group the lot together and then all the elements take on the current layer.

HEEEEELLLPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[covoxer]

Soft Group, not Group. These are different things.

[TimBox]

Attached as a simple demo to show my issue

The text on both layers are soft grouped, it all works well in preview

Now I select both layers and try to make a set of nav buttons using the "create Navigation bar" option but all I get is an error

Unless I do a group I cannot use "Create Navigation bar", As soon as I do I lose my layers

[covoxer]

You should read carefully what the warning window says.
Every state of your menu button must be a group that contains text and button object. On the same layer. You can not make a button form just a text.
Now, as you have a group of text and graphics that represents your button on the mouseoff layer, you create a similar group on the mouseover layer. Then you soft group these two groups. Now you can make a navbar of it.
See attached file. It's your web design. I just grouped objects correctly so now you can create a navbar without a problem.

[TimBox]

Ok Now I get it, so you do not have to softgroup the "text" element, layers to make the associate.

This is what I should do

Group (Text + Graphics on MouseOn)
Group (Text + Graphics on MouseOff )

Softgroup both.

Many thanks...