Xara to Illustrator paste size difference

[RickX]

When I copy paste a design from xara to illustrator (or to another design program), the object in illustrator is bigger then the original size in Xara. For example a 90mm width object becomes a 120mm scaled object. I always have to resize it back in illustrator.

Anyone knows how to fix this?

[steve.ledger]

Well I don't see this.
Can you give more details? Are you using vector shapes/drawings? Or bitmaps.
Perhaps there are dpi settings you are overlooking?

Does the same happen when you use pixel units?

A 400x400 pixel vector object drawn in Xtreme pastes into any other application at 400x400 for me.
Here shown pasted into IrfanView

[RickX]

I am using vector shapes and my page units are mm, not only to illustrator but also to for example sign software. When I use pixel units the copy is almost exact.

See screenshot

[steve.ledger]

I don't have AI installed so I can't check, but I cannot repeat what you see even if I use mm units.

What happens if you export as PDF from Xtreme and open the file in AI?

[ss-kalm]

90mm to 120mm has a direct correlation to 96 dpi to 72 dpi (96/72=1.33333*90=120).

I would definitely be looking at the dpi settings. I suspect that Illustrator as a Adobe product is importing at 72 dpi.

Not sure why the others do it, but that probably depends on what the others are ...

[handrawn]

illustrator still has its internal screen rendering size set at 72dpi

photoshop you have the option now of 96dpi [same as xtreme] but not AFAIK in illustrator

this probably explains it - as Keith indicated

EDIT - just to keep Steve happy: for dpi read ppi

[Albacore]

Would it not really be quicker and more reliable if you exported your file as a PDF then opened it in AI as the size is fine. There maybe a few more steps but I have never found pasting works well from Xara even excluding the size change due res. change even the stroke width changes as well as size.

[handrawn]

I'd second that

copy paste can often be unreliable between different products - even when they are both from the same company... sometimes the changes can be subtle and not so easy to spot at first

[steve.ledger]

I'll third it of course
And I did ask RickX in post#4 about saving as PDF and opening in AI?
Perhaps he'll respond to this soon.

[RickX]

Thanks for your replies. yes exporting and importing works fine, but that process is much more time consuming when I have to do that XX times a day. I use illustrator or easysign to send files to a plotter (both have the size 'problem'), it is easy for me to copy & paste which is fast and works fine so far but it will be even more productive if the design matches the exact size as in Xara.

I will look further into changing the dpi/ppi settings but no luck so far

Even better will be if I can send the design directly to the cutter/plotter (summa) but I think that is to much to ask