Embedding Fonts in Xar Files Questions and Discussions

**Albacore** · 09 July 2009, 09:34 AM

When I download Bob's I get exactly what Frances gets but cant do anything with it. When I type in Egg's text block I can fill in the text and get the same characters without Steve's errors. I this anything to do with web safe fonts or am I getting this wrong. It would be really good to know the definitive rules here of what we can and can not do and is it legal?

**iamtheblues** · 09 July 2009, 12:26 PM

It strikes me that I ought to post a screenshot of how the fonts really should look.
Saludos,
Bob.

**Egg Bramhill** · 09 July 2009, 12:44 PM

This is what I get Bob.

**Egg Bramhill** · 09 July 2009, 12:50 PM

As you can see these are nothing like your originals (apart from the dingbat fonts which I don't have installed).

From the Help Files:

Font embedding
Xara Xtreme Pro 5 stores the character shapes of all the fonts used in your document. This means if you give someone else your design file, or transfer the file to another computer, the text will still look exactly right, even if the correct fonts are not installed on that computer. But this only embeds the characters that are used in the document (the full font is not included). So on computers with the fonts missing, any text that is added in the missing fonts may be missing the correct character shapes.

Unless I'm missing something this isn't working as advertised. Maybe John can throw some light on the subject.

**Soquili** · 09 July 2009, 04:19 PM

Not all fonts allow embedding. Xara will only embed a font if it does not forbid it.

**Xhris** · 09 July 2009, 07:48 PM

I wonder then, how does Acrobat load PDFs when the font is not on a user's system, and it retain an as-designed look? Or does it now I come to think about it?

**dpt** · 09 July 2009, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by Xhris

I wonder then, how does Acrobat load PDFs when the font is not on a user's system, and it retain an as-designed look? Or does it now I come to think about it?

It has some very clever multiple master technology which synthesises a font to fit from a specification of the original.

**Xhris** · 09 July 2009, 10:23 PM

Could this be what Xara V5 is doing also (or attempting to) I wonder?

**ss-kalm** · 10 July 2009, 03:09 AM

Originally Posted by Xhris

Could this be what Xara V5 is doing also (or attempting to) I wonder?

If it is, then it's not making a very good job of it!

**Egg Bramhill** · 10 July 2009, 02:23 PM

Actually Kieth when it has the fonts that are allowed to be embedded it works very well. I just think the warning window needs tweaking to inform the user what fonts have been embedded and what fonts have been substituted and the help files updated. Bill sent me a xar file were all the fonts embeded correctly. Possibly if he reads this he'll attach it here.