cushy cms

[lingo3]

hi
just wondering if anyone had had any success using cushy cms to update web designer sites. looking to create a couple of sites for people who want to update their own and this looks like an ideal option.

problem is you have to denote 'editable areas' via the sites code and i havent come across a way to do that with web designer so far.
thanks for any help
paul

[pauland]

From my post on another thread

"XWD generates the HTML layout from the design content that you have created in XWD. It includes multiple pixel positioned fields to represent the layout precisely. Populating the page (now acting as a template) from a CMS would bypass that layout mechanism. XWD generates many separate fields positioned for the original content that would not be suitable for different content generated by a CMS."

The only real way to do it would be with placeholders, but you would need to give up (in those sections) the text formating and text layout that XWD gives you.

It would not be at all possible to have user editable text that flowed around an image, for example.

Paul

[gwpriester]

Adobe InContext Editing (ICE) can do this. But unfortunately, it only works with Dreamweaver CS4. I just wrote a review of ICE. It is pretty cool and uses named DIV tags, something I am sure Xara/John could work out.

The webmaster determines the level of changes the client can make, from simple text changes and updates, to styles, uploading photos and adding hyperlinks.

Xara already has the technology in Xara OnLine Site Updater. And they have offered this service for years.

[pauland]

That's as may be, but it won't allow simple editing of blocks of text that have been entered using XWD, because they are in separate DIV tags - one for each line.

The real difficultly is that inline editing of a generated page bypasses the layout management that XWD uses. Dreamweaver would (most likely) have all text to be edited inside one DIV tag and the layout of the page is controlled using CSS rules. XWD bypasses that to break up text blocks into a lot of separate DIVS.

It is possible to substitute text using a CMS, but it's not convenient nor would it work as users might expect.

[lingo3]

thanks for your replies guys - bit disappointing so i suppose its struggle on with deamweaver for cms sites, although 'cushy' does mean that everybody doesnt have to have a copy of contribute.

[bexvlad]

Hi I've been using Cushy but now prefer surrealcms which gives a better WYSIWYG UI if you upload a css to the surreal site.

It has a free version too, please see http://webmagicsouth.co.uk/xara_dynamic/ for a working site.

The trick is to create editable regions and add the content via the cms rather than XWM

Good luck

[Macultra20]

I use an old freeware program called Open Site Editor which uses ASP script to create an editable (textarea) page. This is basically a blank page that is set up to be editable using the <!--BEGIN EDITABLE-->
(this is where your editable content goes)
<!--END EDITABLE--> tags.
This page exists on your server and is independent of the XWD pages that are uploaded. Then I use the placeholder function of XWD to insert this page into the XWD page. It works very well for me. If you don't have asp capabilities, there are other freeware programs that can do the same thing. The key is to create the content page as a separate page and insert using a placeholder. When publishing your page (frontpage, dreamweaver) make sure that you have the content page set to "not publish" (after you have everything set up) otherwise you will overwrite you client's current page with your initial set up page.

[w00dy]

Simple CMS from http://www.phpjabbers.com/ seems to work OK

[vele64]

I use an old freeware program called Open Site Editor which uses ASP script to create an editable (textarea) page. This is basically a blank page that is set up to be editable using the <!--BEGIN EDITABLE-->
(this is where your editable content goes)
<!--END EDITABLE--> tags.
This page exists on your server and is independent of the XWD pages that are uploaded. Then I use the placeholder function of XWD to insert this page into the XWD page. It works very well for me. If you don't have asp capabilities, there are other freeware programs that can do the same thing. The key is to create the content page as a separate page and insert using a placeholder. When publishing your page (frontpage, dreamweaver) make sure that you have the content page set to "not publish" (after you have everything set up) otherwise you will overwrite you client's current page with your initial set up page.

I have tried to find and download Open Site Editor, but developer's web page is not containing it any more. Anyone have valid download URL?